Have we not learned our lessons from the last attempts to split? The issues in our community, which I think Chris is referring to, do not generally revolve around project boundaries. It's not the case that the HDFS community wants to go one way and the MR/YARN community wants to go another, and we get into a conflict around it. If it were, then splitting into separate TLPs would make a ton of sense.
Instead, the issues are usually _within_ a component. So, if we split into 3 TLPs, then we'll just have 3 TLPs, each of which is just as contentious as before. Let's just embrace contention as a fact of life on a high-profile high-stakes project and get back to work. I wasted nearly a month undoing the mess of the last attempt, and I don't see why this time it would go any better. -1 from my perspective on splitting again at this point. Perhaps if we get to the point that we're never making cross-project commits it makes sense, but we're not there still. -Todd On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com> wrote: > I volunteer to help cleanup/normalize Maven stuff. > > Thx > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Tom White <t...@cloudera.com> wrote: >> Eric - I agree with Common being included in HDFS. That's what I meant >> by Common not having a clear enough mission to be a TLP by itself. >> >> Arun - I'm happy to RM some of the upcoming MR releases too. Also to >> help out with the work on audience annotations and compatibility. >> >> Cheers, >> Tom >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: >>>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Suresh Srinivas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Robert and Alejandro have brought up good questions. Here are my thoughts: >>>>> - For first one or two releases all the projects can coordinate and do the >>>>> releases together. This should help simplify the immediate work needed. >>>>> This should also help in us meeting the release timelines that we are >>>>> working towards. As the split makes progress, this cross project >>>>> coordination will no longer be necessary. I volunteer to RM these releases >>>>> and do the needed co-ordination from HDFS. >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 seems like a reasonable first step. Thanks for volunteering Suresh. >>> >>> Also, I'd say we make at least 3-4 alpha/beta releases in this shape. >>> >>> I volunteer to RM for MR/YARN releases and work with Suresh. >>> >>> Arun >>> > > > > -- > Alejandro -- Todd Lipcon Software Engineer, Cloudera
