Ben,

You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political thing. Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its great community project. We're even going to advance the state of development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology. This is going to be big!

I'd like to see more support from you on this!

-Andy

cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )

PS: eyebrowse archive of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is busted again. bah

Ben Hyde wrote:

No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there is so much community enthusiasm for this!

Ben Hyde wrote:

+1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!

On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

Hi All,

I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will see a true value in this project and its active community. Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.

Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and such, as well as acoliver at apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get through!

Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote in advance.

-Andy

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal

[0] rationale

SuperXMailer, the project hosted at http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.

The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is run as a meritocratic community-developed project.

Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
[0.1] criteria


Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with a core of committers including ASF members.

Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community. Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture capabillities.

Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions via Axis.

Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.

Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.

[1] scope of subproject

The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java programming language constituting the framework, management tools, search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.

[2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be populated

The project currently resides on the SourceForge (http://tapestry.sf.net).

[3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created

[3.1] mailing lists(s)

superx-user
superx-dev

[3.2] CVS repositories

jakarta-superx

[3.3] Bugzilla

framework - superx
components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples

[3.4] Wiki

The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation. However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have received mail from persons using it with great results.
[4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter is welcome to add their name here)


Andrew C. Oliver

Nicola Ken Barrozzi

Glen Stampoultzis

[5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is welcome to add their name here)

Andrew C. Oliver

Nicola Ken Barrozzi




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