On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

[I'm having mail problems but saw Roy's reply and want to respond, because this is important, and I want to understand if I grok the problem]

Everyone is having mail problems -- the apache relay is misbehaving.

Roy Responded :
Sure, but unless the proposal reflects that effort I will vote
against it.
SOA should not be the proposal.

I think I understand the problem - it's the presentation in the proposal - and having reviewed the proposal, I should have caught it. It reads like "mubble wubble SOA woogie blah foo SOA fwink thoobie wk SOA boo SOA apooth SOA SOA ... SOA ... "

However, this proposal is about SCA specifically, not SOA generally.

No, the proposal is all about SOA.  What you are saying is that the
*actual plan* is about SCA.  What I am saying is that the proposal
needs to match the actual plan, preferably a plan that is actionable,
rather than a statement of how happy the SOA community may someday be.

I think everyone understands that now, yet nobody has updated the wiki.
There's no rush, I guess, but I do want to be clear that an e-mail
exchange is not the same as recording a mission statement that people
outside the proposal authors will understand.

....Roy


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