I can speak from our Beehive experience moving from Incubator to TLP.
When we graduated, Infra successfully migrated all of our:
beehive-<list>@incubator.apache.org
into:
<list>@beehive.apache.org
including all of our subscribers and message history. Thanks, much
Infra! :) The merged archives are available here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/beehive-dev/
I believe that the beehive-<list>@incubator aliases still forward to the
new lists as I occasionally see mail from Beehive and Geronimo lists
that still go to @incubator addresses. Could be wrong about this,
though -- can someone from Infra confirm this?
If the goal is identifying things as incubating, my vote is a
(non-binding) +1 for projects that live here.
Eddie
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi,
-0 (non-binding)
Not to throw a monkey wrench into this, but:
Are we really sure that it's that easy changing an email alias at
graduation time? Unlike svn repos that only a few folks use, mailing
lists are widespread. Have you thought about exactly how to transition
from the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? Will there be a forwarding of
the old alias to the new alias at graduation? How long will the
forwarding last? Will there be a consolidated archive of the old alias
and the new alias? Will there be any continuation of threads from the
old alias to the new alias?
Without a clear policy on the transitioning of the mail lists, and tools
to facilitate the transition I'm not sure it's a good idea.
Craig
On 18.12.2005, at 05:49, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Please vote on the following:
New mailing lists should be created under the
@incubator.apache.org domain, just as all of
the other project resources, e.g., the web
site and SVN subtree.
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 16:02
To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: @domain for Incubator mailing lists
There has been some discussion and confusion over where to put mailing
lists
for projects that are in the Incubator. As the person who argued for the
current approach, which had to do with infrastructure issues, I'm also
going
to suggest that it change. We are finding that it is more and more
important to highlight when a project is in the Incubator, and to ensure
that there is no confusion in the mind of the public about that status.
The current approach is to put the mailing lists under the domain of
the TLP
into which it was expected that they would go, and THE REASON for this had
to do with the difficulty of moving the mailing lists and the eyebrowse
archives. HOWEVER, Roy has since written a script to move mailing lists,
and we no longer use eyebrowse. And unlike the prior setup, it is fairly
straightforward to redirect an old archive location to a new one.
THEREFORE, new mailing lists should be created under the
@incubator.apache.org domain, just as all of the other project resources,
e.g., the web site and SVN subtree.
--- Noel
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
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