On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 15:00 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
I think so -- an unwelcome mentor is a waste of everyone's time.

I also think mentors need commit access, since I don't believe it is
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This is the documented practice; see
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ Roles_and_Responsibilities.html:

"The candidate shall declare an initial set of committers. On acceptance of a candidate project, the assigned Mentor shall be given access to the
Podling's cvs repository for the duration of the incubation process.
This is to allow the Mentor to perform their incubation duties, and is
for administrative purposes only. To be given full committer privileges,
such as the right to add new code to the repository, the Mentor must
earn them as would any other potential new committer. In some cases, the
Mentor may be part of the initial set of declared committers, but this
is not a requirement of the Incubation process."

However, note the emphasis on "administrative purposes" .. you seem to
indicate more access than that:

No, I didn't.  I indicated that the mentor needs to help do the work.
Administrative work is a huge part of getting a project going. I include
in that things like setting up accounts, helping infrastructure, making
accurate infra requests, following up with root responses, setting up
subversion directories, and developing a process for publishing a
website.

....Roy


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