On Sep 30, 2006, at 3:57 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

On 9/29/06, Dan Diephouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Jim,

Can you please explain what the criteria was for removing people from
the comitter list? Can you also detail who was removed? Can you also
explain why this hasn't been communicated to everyone on the dev list so far? And why I have only heard about the final decision third hand from this email and an offhand mention in Bo's email? I am OK with the PMC's
authority as thats what I signed up for at Apache, but I feel that if
they make such an important decision as this they should at least
communicate the above.

setting aside the particulars, this worries me from a process perspective.


I will again defer to Jason van Zyl who was the prime
focus of all this. Unless Jason responds by Monday, I
will email a synopsis from my PoV. I will state however
that from the get-go, I said:

  I would be somewhat hesitant about doing this via
  a con-call. Certainly we can request a cxf-private
  list that contains the mentors and the PPMC
  members (see #2). The reason is simple: such
  policy discussions should be archived, since they
  affect the project and its future.

One key question was "who is the PPMC". My interpretation
is that the initial PPMC consists of the Mentors and
the initial group of committers noted and agreed to
in the proposal. Some had issues with that and said
that the initial list of committers was "stacked".

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