Hello Serge,

thanks for the detailed reply.

We have started a discussion with Davanum Shrinivas from the Apache WS
community. [...] I have posted the proposal in the Savan list as well.

Good. If discussion there moves forward, you could occasionally
send a summary here for those that don't follow that list.

Yeh, "Mentor" section of the proposal should be renamed. [...]
Would renaming this section to "Domain Experts" make sense to you?

Yes, that's good.

Regarding the GPL code. Our intent is to remove all GPL dependency from
the code prior to the initial relaease.

That's good enough. I was just curious whether you really have
a hard dependency at all, or whether it is just indirectly
through a standard Java API.

I agree that University Research Community and Open Source Community not
the same, but they are similar in some respect. [...] we do not know
exactly how it is going to work in this enviroment, but we are willing
to give it a try by relasing our stuff in the open. We are interested in
making it work. Resesach progress could go so much faster if it would
really happen. We have good indicatation from our peers so far.We have a
long list of researchers that indicated that they would like to see this
stuff in the open and contribute to it.

Excellent.

So far PADRES code base has been developed through constant interaction
and continous integration. The codebase is open to everybody in the
project and eveyone can poetentially make changes to everybody else's
code. In fact this is happening a lot when a student is preparing to
graduate or past graduation. We expect that there will be more of that
once the project is open sourced. The students would charge ahaed
working on their ideas. This code will be visible to the community and
anybody would have ability to contribute to that direciton if it makes
sense to them. Isn't it how Apache project operate?

You should be aware that you will not be able to just give
students access to the Apache repository. They will have to
contribute in the form of patches, which need to be reviewed
and committed by others, until they have earned enough merit
to be voted in as committers. I suspect that currently
students will be given access to your repository as soon as
they start working on the project. The continuous integration
and "access to everything" policy work well with Open Source.

The time span a thesis development is 2-3 years.

That's good, and different from what I was used to.
While studies would span several years, the work on
the actual diploma thesis itself was typically done
in about 6 months. Of course students could engage
at an institute with a long-running project and work
on that in different settings for a longer time, but
that wasn't a requirement.

Prof. Arno Jacobsen is conducting regular code reviews and is involved
in architecture, design, troubleshooting, evaluations, and experiments.
You are right, he is expected to commit more on the documentation side
than on the code base.

OK, thanks for clarifying.

cheers,
  Roland


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