On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IMHO apache needs to be more active at getting it's corpus into the > distributions. for a long time, the Java Trap stuff was a major social > barrier but that should dead and gone now. (isn't it?) Ish. Dusting off my Linux systems management / build system hat for a moment, I'll try to summarise the java specific issues. OpenJDK and IcedTea are obviously major improvements for the Freedom-matters distros. Unfortunately, there's still a couple of issues that I'll charitably describe as cultural impedence mismatches. Each distro has varying rules about exactly what they require in terms of being able to build a package, but the fact that maven goes to the network and doesn't look for libs in the standard places a distro puts them is a huge barrier to acceptance in all the ones I'm familiar with (Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Debian. It's been a long, long time since I contributed packages to FreeBSD but they're historically more flexible and Java friendly). It's a solvable problem though. Qpid moved back to plain ant to make shipping the Java components easier[1]. I've got patches to use Ivy, but I haven't finished the work (it's still looking for libs in something looks like a maven repo, not /usr/lib) If we're serious about this, lets work with the JPackage people. The OpenSUSE build service might be helpful as well. - Aidan (who is making a general plea for this not to turn into maven bashing, that's so 2008, 2007, 2006...) [1] A number of components are already shipped in Fedora, and RedHat ship some as part of their commercial offerings. -- Apache Qpid - World Domination through Advanced Message Queueing http://qpid.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
