On 26/05/2010, Les Hazlewood <lhazlew...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:12 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The staging site appeared to be part of the vote as it was not > > specifically excluded. > > > This was a mistake - it probably should have been excluded. AFAICT, > staging sites are _not_ considered release artifacts because they're > never shipped/distributed. It is there for reference only. > > > > Regardless, I think it's important that when an Incubator project > > wants to do a release, consumers need to be fully aware that it is not > > a normal ASF release. Seems to me that this is why the branding > > guidelines are there. > > > I agree that there are some website issues that have no bearing on a > release. > > > > However IMO ensuring that Incubator projects are clearly identified as > > such is fundamental to allowing releases from Incubator projects. > > > We reference the Incubator in a lot of places on the site. And we'll > work on making that more prevalent as soon as possible, but as I > understand it, this is not considered release criteria. Until it is, > it doesn't seem that a release should be prohibited.
If anything, I would see it as a pre-release criterion > The only thing that should prevent a release IMO would be violations > of _concrete_ release criteria. Saying that "The Incubator isn't > mentioned in a prevalent area of the website", while maybe true, is a > nebulous statement - it is purely based on interpretation. > > I think it's fine to have branding as release criteria, but it needs > to be explicit so we can know exactly what the problem is and how to > fix it (e.g. "Incubator must be linked to from the page graphic > header" or "Must be linked as a root-level navigation element in the > site's nav bar", etc). Until that happens, it is unfair to prevent a > release based on personal interpretation when all other criteria have > been met. Sure that's precisely what http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html in particular http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers is all about. This is very similar to Ant Elder's point about the missing disclaimers in the release materials. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
