I'd be willing to help out with a RAT TLP. We're using it in our normal build process for OpenJPA, Geronimo and Bean Validation, so helping out on future votes is the least I can do.
-Donald On 8/12/10 5:52 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12, Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On 2010-08-11, Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> >>>> The real point though is not size - its *activity*. >>> >>> [absolutely correct observation of low activity snipped] >>> >>>> My concern is if RAT goes TLP then it may be a small step away from >>>> not being able to get 3 PMC votes. >>> >>> I understand that and share the concern to some degree. >>> >>> RAT has probably never been the primary project for any of its >>> contributors. Most of us jumped in to scratch specific itches and other >>> than that RAT is a side project somewhere down the list of projects we >>> contribute to regularly. Pretty far down. >>> >>> That being said, we are aware of the problem and have tried to address >>> that by adding four more committers last December, that doesn't seem to >>> have been enough. >>> >>> One reason probably is that RAT does what it is supposed to do well >>> enough for most of us - the feedback of people who said RAT was so >>> important to them that it should become a TLP indicates it is good >>> enough for most other people as well. In a way RAT has already been >>> mature and in maintenance mode when it entered incubation. >>> >>> So yes, development activity is low. >>> >>> OTOH patches get applied and releases are made if there is anything to >>> fix. I'm sure we could have gotten more people to vote if it had been >>> necessary on the last release, it just wasn't necessary so people >>> preferred to work on other things rather than checking releases. >> >> Right. it is being properly managed. >> >> Just like the Apache Tcl TLP. And Apache Excalibur. And Apache Perl. >> ... could probably find a few more low-activity TLPs, but I believe >> you see my point. It isn't about activity either. It is about whether >> you have eyeballs on the community and the codebase. > > Clearly then there are small TLPs that operate effectively. However > any TLP that can't get 3 PMC votes is effectively dead and I don't > want to see RAT end up in that situation in a year or two. Seeing only > 3 votes on the RAT 0.7 release from its PPMC raises that concern. > > Niall > > >> Cheers, >> -g > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
