On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Greg Stein wrote:

A full transcription shouldn't be necessary.

I agree. Transcript is too strong for what I think needs to be done, which is...

Just bring a summary of
discussion points back to the list, along with any recommendations.
The list can then sort through it and make decisions.

What you said. Not a transcript but a list of topics and discussion points which continue on list.

Craig

We have off-list discussions all the time (IM, IRC, in-person). We
don't transcribe those. We just bring the discussion onto the list for
wrapping it up with everybody present. Skype concalls are no different
than these other forums.

Cheers,
-g

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:18, Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com > wrote:
My $0.02:

The business of Apache is conducted on email.

It's fine to have a periodic conference call among interested project
participants, as long as (my list, not normative):

no project or community member is excluded (e.g. by posting the call
information only to a private list)

no decisions are made during the call

all topics discussed are subsequently posted via email to the project
members

Having an audio transcript is interesting but doesn't pass my email test. So I'd have to say that someone needs to transcribe the audio into email.

Craig

On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, James Carman wrote:

I don't know about this.  Whatever we do has to be trackable and
"open", so I don't know about this Skype stuff.  Requiring folks to
watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a
transcript is probably not a good idea. I'm copying the general list
to see what others have to say.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good idea

+1 on the Skype monthly meeting.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin
<the.malk...@gmail.com> wrote:

At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I don't know
how
to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people involved :).

Monthly is good.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton
<mi...@mycosystems.co.uk>wrote:

Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for organising it.
Yes
monthly similar would be good.

Mike

On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood <dkhayw...@gmail.com> wrote:

First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed the

opportunity. Hope it was useful. It was nice, actually, to read the transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the oppo to do
that
while I was demo'ing).

Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working. Of course,
after

the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2 minutes. At any
rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the
"SmokeTest"
page on the wiki [1].

Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call using

CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok. It's about 92Mb, recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the voices
across
the spectrum, which I think is quite nice. Anyway, I've just uploaded
it to
my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private. (If you
aren't
subscribed there, contact me directly).

Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and again. We

could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional.
 Thoughts?

Cheers
Dan

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html

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On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for organizing the call.

I was not able to record the entire call - Of the 56 minutes
captured, a
lot of it is silence. I'm not sure if it is an issue with the app or
my
machine.

Anyway, thanks to all who participated, it was good to be able to
associate voices with the emails.

Regards,
Kevin






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