I'm just trying to make sure we do things the "Apache Way", since I'm supposed to be a "mentor" for this project.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goes...@it20one.at> wrote: > Hi folks, > > open source projects are done by individuals. And individuals like to > communicate during long & lonely nights in front of the keyboard. And > meeting the other ISIS developers is difficult since the are spread around > the globe. > > So if the ISIS developer/users/mentors/community decide to run a regular > Skype meeting to meet each other electronically assuming > > +) that the meeting is announced on the dev list > > +) that we not exclude any interested party (apart from troll feeding) > > +) that no official statement/vote is circumvented > > than I don't see any good reason why someone could complain about it and/or > impose rules how to organize such a "come together". > > Speaking as one of the participants > > +) I was impressed by Dan's energy to organize the meeting > > +) I was delighted that we were a dozen developers on Skype > > *) I was glad to answer a few questions about the ASF (despite being > seriously distracted by my two daughters on my lap) > > > Cheers, > > Siegfried Goeschl > Apache ISIS Mentor > > On 11/19/10 10:52 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: >> >> On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >>> A full transcription shouldn't be necessary. >> >> I agree. Transcript is too strong for what I think needs to be done, >> which is... >> >>> Just bring a summary of >>> discussion points back to the list, along with any recommendations. >>> The list can then sort through it and make decisions. >> >> What you said. Not a transcript but a list of topics and discussion >> points which continue on list. >> >> Craig >>> >>> We have off-list discussions all the time (IM, IRC, in-person). We >>> don't transcribe those. We just bring the discussion onto the list for >>> wrapping it up with everybody present. Skype concalls are no different >>> than these other forums. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -g >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:18, Craig L Russell >>> <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> My $0.02: >>>> >>>> The business of Apache is conducted on email. >>>> >>>> It's fine to have a periodic conference call among interested project >>>> participants, as long as (my list, not normative): >>>> >>>> no project or community member is excluded (e.g. by posting the call >>>> information only to a private list) >>>> >>>> no decisions are made during the call >>>> >>>> all topics discussed are subsequently posted via email to the project >>>> members >>>> >>>> Having an audio transcript is interesting but doesn't pass my email >>>> test. So >>>> I'd have to say that someone needs to transcribe the audio into email. >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, James Carman wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know about this. Whatever we do has to be trackable and >>>>> "open", so I don't know about this Skype stuff. Requiring folks to >>>>> watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a >>>>> transcript is probably not a good idea. I'm copying the general list >>>>> to see what others have to say. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din >>>>> <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good idea >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 on the Skype monthly meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin >>>>>> <the.malk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I don't >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people involved :). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Monthly is good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton >>>>>>> <mi...@mycosystems.co.uk>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for organising it. >>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>> monthly similar would be good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood <dkhayw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> opportunity. Hope it was useful. It was nice, actually, to read the >>>>>>>> transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the oppo >>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> while I was demo'ing). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working. Of course, >>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2 minutes. >>>>>>>> At any >>>>>>>> rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the >>>>>>>> "SmokeTest" >>>>>>>> page on the wiki [1]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call using >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok. It's about 92Mb, >>>>>>>> recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the voices >>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>> the spectrum, which I think is quite nice. Anyway, I've just >>>>>>>> uploaded >>>>>>>> it to >>>>>>>> my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private. (If you >>>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>>> subscribed there, contact me directly). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and >>>>>>>>> again. We >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional. >>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Dan, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for organizing the call. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was not able to record the entire call - Of the 56 minutes >>>>>>>>>> captured, a >>>>>>>>>> lot of it is silence. I'm not sure if it is an issue with the >>>>>>>>>> app or >>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks to all who participated, it was good to be able to >>>>>>>>>> associate voices with the emails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Alexander >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> - Mohammad Nour >>>>>> Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User >>>>>> Guide) >>>>>> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >>>>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >>>>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep >>>>>> moving" >>>>>> - Albert Einstein >>>>>> >>>>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >>>>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >>>>>> than your best." >>>>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >>>>>> >>>>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >>>>>> - Steve Jobs >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> Craig L Russell >>>> Architect, Oracle >>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo >>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com >>>> P.S. A good JDO? 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