The download size of sources alone is about 32M for each .zip/.tar.gz.

I can't upload CHANGES.txt or KEYS to people.apache.org right now
because of a firewall restriction, so I've attached the files for your
convenience.

Karl


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am happy to provide clear-text versions of KEYS and CHANGES.txt if
> that is what you require.  I've just never seen any other Apache
> project that did that.
>
> As for whether there should be separate source and binary
> distributions, bear in mind that a binary-only distribution of
> ManifoldCF makes little sense.  ManifoldCF is unusual in that it
> distributes a number of connectors which require third-party libraries
> in order to compile.  We do not distribute those libraries for
> licensing reasons.  Conditional compilation is used to build those
> connectors for which you supply the right bits.  The binary part thus
> includes only the framework, and those connectors which depend only on
> open-source code.  This is relatively limited but makes it faster and
> easier for someone to start things up right out of the box.
>
> So, effectively, you are asking us to not have a binary distribution
> in order to save on space.  Is this a firm request, or is this just
> unhappiness at the download time?  FWIW, I personally don't think such
> a build will save a great deal tar/zip space, but I can certainly
> check and get back to you.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Answering on Grant's behalf, the ManifoldCF artifact contains both
>>> source and binary, and the KEYS and CHANGES.txt files are within the
>>> artifact, as seems to be standard Apache practice.
>>
>> Well I won't say it's standard Apache practice in my experience. I've made 
>> probably over a dozen releases in about 3+ different Apache projects so far 
>> (Nutch, Tika, SIS) and I've always put out a plain-text version of 
>> CHANGES.txt and KEYS alongside the release artifacts. The advantage of doing 
>> so is that I don't have to download a 140 MB file before I can check what 
>> changes are part of the release.
>>
>> Also one of the things that Clutch checks in the Incubator is that there is 
>> a KEYS file in the distribution area, separate of the release artifacts. So, 
>> I would say it should be there.
>>
>>>  You just need to
>>> untar/unzip it.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I'd like to see the source and binary tarballs 
>> separated. Strictly speaking, you really only need a source release, but 
>> it's up to you guys I think if you want to provide a binary one too. The 
>> advantage is that the source release is likely much smaller I'm guessing 
>> than the binary.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>>> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> Hi Grant,
>>>>
>>>> Is this a source or binary release? How are you guys making the release? 
>>>> Using Ant or Maven?
>>>>
>>>> Can you guys provide a KEYS and CHANGES.txt file as part of the release 
>>>> artifacts?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of 
>>>>> artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first 
>>>>> release, extra attention to detail is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find the artifacts at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
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ManifoldCF Change Log
$Id: CHANGES.txt 1050185 2010-12-16 21:55:42Z kwright $

======================= Release 0.1 =======================
Release Date:  See http://incubator.apache.org/connectors for the official 
release date.

CONNECTORS-128: Remove sql quoting logic to make sql injection attacks
less possible.
(Grant Ingersoll, Robert Muir, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-122: FileNet and Documentum connector-specific process
scripts needed.
(Oleg Tikhonov, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-127: Broken FileNet Document Classes tab.
(Oleg Tikhonov, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-126: Added a performance tuning page to the site.
(Farzad, Karl Wright)

Removed modules level of tree, and revamped build.xml in anticipation of
a release.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-125: Set the default max handles property to be consistent with
a default PostgreSQL installation.
(Farzad, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-124: Add a null authority connector, so authority tests can be
written.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-109: Hooked up user-defined functions in Derby to perform the needed
regular expression matching and grouping.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-121: Fixed broken javascript in the Windows Share connector "insert 
here"
button.
(Fred Schmitt, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-117: Revised manner by which dynamic table maintenance is performed,
so that it can be controlled by configuration parameters.
(Farzad, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-116: Removed Memex connector due to intellectual property concerns.
(Robert Muir)

CONNECTORS-113: Add properties that allow quick-start example to work properly 
with
PostgreSQL.
(Farzad, Karl Wright)

Name change to ManifoldCF
(Community)

CONNECTORS-107: Entering report forms now preselects all activities.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-106: noteJobCompleted() method in IOutputConnector now receives an
activities object, so activities can be recorded.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-98: Convert the API into a RESTful implementation.
(Jack Krupansky, Mark Miller, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-104: Add convenience feature to web connector to limit hosts to those
explicitly mentioned in seeds.
(Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-102: Web connector default throttling settings.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-103: RSS connector default throttling settings.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-105: File system connector UI enhancements, to use a table-based
metaphor for paths and rules.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-101: File system connector paths should automatically get default 
rules added.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-57: Add support in Solr connector for selecting whether end-of-job
commits take place, on a per-connection basis.
(Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-41: Add support in the framework for end-of-job notification to the
associated output connector, which can take an extended period of time.
(Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-97: Web connector session authentication was failing for some sites
due to cookies httpclient thought were illegal, but browsers would accept.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-91: Made the initialization commands more accessible via code. 
(Jettro Coenradie, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-90: Fixed a localization issue where database errors that should be
soft errors were instead interpreted as hard failures for non-English locales.
(Carina <c.a....@gmx.de>, Marc Emery, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-62: Added additional LCF API Documentation (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-59: Packaged application so that it is ready to run with embedded
Jetty App Server. (Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-56: Enhanced API so that more features are accessible 
programmatically.
(Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-52: Updated documentation to reflect new features added to the Solr
connector.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-51: Reduce the number of required system properties needed to run the
JCIFS connector.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-49: Allow mapping of the metadata ID field in the Solr connector.
(Rohan G Patil, Jack Krupansky, Erik Hatcher, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-48: Improve rules description for the SharePoint connector.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-47: Framework UI called connector post-processing more than needed.
(Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-46: Improve documentation for metadata with the JDBC Connector.
(Rohan G Patil, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-45: Allow specifying the Solr core name with the Solr Connector.
(Jack Krupansky, Erik Hatcher, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-44: Add metadata support to the JDBC Connector.
(Rohan G Patil, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-43: Wseless call to String.trim in MultiLineParser
(Mark Miller, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-42: Impossible cast in org.apache.lcf.core.database.Database
(Mark Miller, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-40: Change to a classloader-based plugin architecture
(Jack Krupansky, Mark Miller, Erik Hatcher, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-39: Allow abstraction of database transaction management.  (Karl 
Wright)

CONNECTORS-38: Add a jetty-based "quick-start". (Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-37: Switch to an XML configuration file.
(Erik Hatcher, Jack Krupansky, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-36: Improve the Solr Connector's UI to be more intuitive.  (Karl 
Wright)

CONNECTORS-35: Add a method to reset the framework.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-33: Document how to use the framework programmatically. (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-26: Rename war files from "tomcat" to "web" as there is nothing
tomcat-specific about them.  (Erik Hatcher, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-23: Add usage examples to Command documentation
(Damien Mabin, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-22: Add support for ACLs to the Solr Connector.
(Dominique Bejean, Peter Sturge, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-20, CONNECTORS-3: Add an ant build system. (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-18: The Lucene Connector was renamed to Solr Connector. (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-17: Fix broken link in the Crawler UI's help page.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-16: Generalize JCIFS connector's fingerprinting.
(Sami Siren, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-14: Remove some javac warnings.  (Robert Muir, Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-12: Improve whitespace formatting to be consistent. (Erik Hatcher, 
Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-11: Add automated build for the Apache2 Module. (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-9, CONNECTORS-8, CONNECTORS-7, CONNECTORS-5, CONNECTORS-2:
Remove Metacarta branding and setup.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-6: Move documentation from LaTeX to the wiki.  (Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-4: Submit changes to other packages as patches.  (Oleg Kalnichevski, 
Karl Wright)

CONNECTORS-1: Created connectors website. (Grant Ingersoll)
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