Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of the pasts
and the slights of the past, quite frankly, we aren't going to
get very far.

This is supposed to be a happy occasion; let's not bicker
and argue about who-killed-who... :)

On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:11 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:

> Jochen Wiedmann <jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com> wrote on 06/02/2011 10:25:20 
> AM:
> 
>>> 
>>> I trust I do not need to explain at length to an Apache PMC the 
> relative
>>> merits of the Apache 2.0 license or the strengths and stability of the
>>> ASF.  I'll take it as granted that this is well-known to you all.  In 
> any
>>> case I am a strict adherent to the practical wisdom of not debating 
> open
>>> source licenses while sober, and I decline to make an exception in 
> this
>>> case.
>> 
>> Rob, it may come as a surprise to you: But what I wrote was in no way
>> related to a particular license. I would have written just the same,
>> if Apache would use the LGPL/MPL and LibreOffice where ASL licensed.
>> 
>> The point I am trying to make is that it is (IMO) in noone's interest
>> to create a second community (!), the exception (at least it seems)
>> being IBM. Everyone else would be just as happy or even happier if the
>> OO code base, trademarks, etc. where simply donated to TDF.
>> 
> 
> Respectfully, Jochen, that is your opinion, but it disproved with every 
> non-IBM name added to the wiki.
> 
> Despite TDF press releases, there was never unanimous support for 
> LibreOffice among members of the OpenOffice.org community.  We're seeing 
> some of them stand up now and be counted.
> 
> What is best for them?  Really?  Do you really want to tell them what is 
> best for them, what will make everyone happy?!
> 


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