Edward, Andrei - thanks for volunteering to help out as initial
committers. Please add your names to the proposal on the wiki.

Cheers,
Tom

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Andrei Savu <as...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm happy to see this project joining the Foundation. As an Apache
> Whirr committer I feel a lot of pain when it comes to testing
> compatibility for multiple services across multiple operating systems
> (and multiple cloud providers).
>
> I would love to join the Bigtop team as one of the initial committers
> an do some of testing work we are already doing in Whirr.
>
> PS: having ready to use .rpm and .deb packages sounds really great!
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Andrei Savu / andreisavu.ro
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Tom White <tomwh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose Bigtop to be an Apache Incubator project.
>> Bigtop is a project for the development of packaging and tests of the
>> Hadoop ecosystem. The goal is to do testing at various levels
>> (packaging, platform, runtime, upgrade, etc...) developed by a
>> community with a focus on the system as a whole, rather than
>> individual projects.
>>
>> Here's a link to the proposal on the wiki
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BigtopProposal
>>
>> I've also included the initial contents below.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>>
>> = Bigtop - Apache Hadoop Ecosystem Packaging and Test =
>>
>> == Abstract ==
>>
>> Bigtop - a project for the development of packaging and tests of the
>> Hadoop ecosystem.
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>>
>> The primary goal of Bigtop is to build a community around the
>> packaging and interoperability testing of Hadoop-related projects.
>> This includes testing at various levels (packaging, platform, runtime,
>> upgrade, etc...) developed by a community with a focus on the system
>> as a whole, rather than individual projects.
>>
>> Build, packaging and integration test code that depends upon official
>> releases of the Apache Hadoop-related projects (HDFS, MapReduce,
>> HBase, Hive, Pig, ZooKeeper, etc...) will be developed and released by
>> this project. As bugs and other issues are found we expect these to be
>> fixed upstream.
>>
>> == Background ==
>>
>> The initial packaging and test code for Bigtop was developed by
>> Cloudera to package projects from the Apache Hadoop ecosystem and
>> provide a consistent, inter-operable framework.
>>
>> == Rationale ==
>>
>> Hadoop defines itself as:
>>
>> {{{
>> The Apache Hadoop project develops open-source software for reliable,
>> scalable, distributed computing. Hadoop includes these subprojects:
>>
>> * Hadoop Common: The common utilities that support the other Hadoop 
>> subprojects.
>> * HDFS: A distributed file system that provides high throughput access
>> to application data.
>> * MapReduce: A software framework for distributed processing of large
>> data sets on compute clusters.
>> }}}
>>
>> There are also several other Hadoop-related projects at Apache.  Some
>> TLP examples include HBase, Hive, Mahout, ZooKeeper, and Pig.  There
>> are also several new projects in the Incubator such as HCatalog and
>> Sqoop.
>>
>> There is limited interoperability testing done the projects
>> themselves. The intent of this project is to build a community where
>> the projects are brought together, packaged, and tested for
>> interoperability.
>>
>> Projects such as Apache Whirr (incubating), which deploy and use a
>> collection of Hadoop-related projects, would benefit from the
>> interoperability testing done by Bigtop, rather than picking and
>> testing project combinations themselves.
>>
>> == Initial Goals ==
>>
>> Much of the code for Bigtop has been released by Cloudera under the
>> Apache 2.0 license for over two years.
>>
>> Some current goals include:
>>  * create a set of packages for the Hadoop ecosystem, over a wide
>> range of platforms
>>  * interoperability test these projects
>>  * document project sets that are known to work well together
>>
>> Bigtop’s release artifact would consist of a single tarball of
>> packaging and test code that, when built, would produce source and
>> binary Linux packages for the upstream projects.
>>
>> = Current Status =
>>
>> == Meritocracy ==
>>
>> Bigtop was originally developed and released as an open source
>> packaging infrastructure, CDH, by Cloudera.
>>
>> == Community ==
>>
>> The community is primarily the original developers at Cloudera,
>> however a number of contributions to the packaging specifications have
>> been accepted from outside contributors. Growing a diverse community
>> is the main reason to bring Bigtop to the Apache Incubator.
>>
>> == Core Developers ==
>>
>> The core developers for Bigtop project are:
>>  * Andrew Bayer has extensive expertise with build tools, specifically
>> Jenkins continuous integration and Maven.
>>  * Peter Linnell has contributed to the RPM packaging.
>>  * Bruno Mahé has overseen much of the development of the RPM and
>> Debian packaging system.
>>  * Roman Shaposhnik designed and implemented the system testing framework.
>>
>> Many of the committers to the Bigtop project have contributed towards
>> Hadoop or related Apache projects (Alejandro Abdelnur, Eli Collins,
>> Patrick Hunt, John Sichi, Michael Stack, Tom White) and are familiar
>> with Apache principals and philosophy for community driven software
>> development.
>>
>> == Alignment ==
>>
>> We expect projects in Bigtop to be drawn from Hadoop and related
>> projects at Apache. Bigtop will complement these projects (Hadoop,
>> Pig, Hive, HBase, etc...) by providing an environment for contributors
>> interested in building more complex data processing pipelines to work
>> together integrating more than a single project into a well tested
>> whole.
>>
>> = Known Risks =
>>
>> == Orphaned Products ==
>>
>> The contributors are leading vendors of Hadoop-based technologies and
>> have a long standing in the Hadoop community. There is minimal risk of
>> this work becoming non-strategic and the contributors are confident
>> that a larger community will form within the project in a relatively
>> short space of time.
>>
>> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>>
>> All code developed for Bigtop has been open sourced under the Apache
>> 2.0 license. Most committers of Bigtop project are intimately familiar
>> with the Apache model for open-source development and are experienced
>> with working with new contributors.
>>
>> == Homogeneous Developers ==
>>
>> The initial set of committers is from a small set of organizations and
>> numerous existing Apache projects. We expect that once approved for
>> incubation, the project will attract new contributors from more
>> organizations and will thus grow organically.
>>
>> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>>
>> It is expected that Bigtop will be developed on salaried and volunteer
>> time, although all of the initial developers will work on it mainly on
>> salaried time.
>>
>> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
>>
>> Bigtop depends upon other Apache Projects including Apache Hadoop,
>> Apache HBase, Apache Hive, Apache Pig, Apache Zookeeper, Apache
>> Thrift, Apache Avro. The build system uses Apache Ant and Apache
>> Maven.
>>
>> == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
>>
>> We would like Bigtop to become an Apache project to further foster a
>> healthy community of contributors and consumers around
>> interoperability, testing and packaging of Hadoop projects. Since
>> Bigtop directly interacts with many Apache Hadoop-related projects and
>> solves important problems of many Hadoop users, residing in the the
>> Apache Software Foundation will increase interaction with the larger
>> community.
>>
>> = Documentation =
>>
>>  * Bigtop will develop its own documentation detailing how to build,
>> test, install, configure and debug.
>>
>> = Initial Source =
>>
>>  * https://github.com/cloudera/bigtop
>>
>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
>>
>>  * The initial source is already licensed under the Apache License, Version 
>> 2.0.
>>
>> https://github.com/cloudera/bigtop
>>
>> == External Dependencies ==
>>
>> The required external dependencies are all Apache License or
>> compatible licenses.
>>
>> == Cryptography ==
>>
>> Bigtop doesn't use cryptography itself, however Hadoop projects use
>> standard APIs and tools for SSH and SSL communication where necessary.
>>
>> = Required  Resources =
>>
>> == Mailing lists ==
>>
>>  * bigtop-private (with moderated subscriptions)
>>  * bigtop-dev
>>  * bigtop-commits
>>  * bigtop-user
>>
>> == Subversion Directory ==
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop
>>
>> == Issue Tracking ==
>>
>> JIRA BIGTOP (Bigtop)
>>
>> == Other Resources ==
>>
>> The existing code already has unit and integration tests so we would
>> like a Jenkins instance to run them whenever a new patch is submitted.
>> This can be added after project creation.
>>
>> = Initial Committers =
>>
>>  * Alejandro Abdelnur (tucu at cloudera dot com)
>>  * Andrew Bayer (abayer at cloudera dot com)
>>  * Eli Collins (eli at apache dot org)
>>  * Travis Crawford (travis at twitter dot com)
>>  * Bruno Mahé (bruno at cloudera dot com)
>>  * Patrick Hunt (phunt at apache dot org)
>>  * Peter Linnell (plinnell at cloudera dot com)
>>  * James Page (James.page at canonical dot com)
>>  * Roman Shaposhnik (rvs at cloudera dot com)
>>  * John Sichi (jvs at apache dot org)
>>  * Michael Stack (stack at apache dot org)
>>  * Tom White (tomwhite at apache dot org)
>>
>> = Affiliations =
>>
>>  * Alejandro Abdelnur, Cloudera
>>  * Andrew Bayer, Cloudera
>>  * Eli Collins, Cloudera
>>  * Travis Crawford, Twitter
>>  * Bruno Mahé, Cloudera
>>  * Patrick Hunt, Cloudera
>>  * Peter Linnell, Cloudera
>>  * James Page, Canonical
>>  * Roman Shaposhnik, Cloudera
>>  * John Sichi, Facebook
>>  * Michael Stack, StumbleUpon
>>  * Tom White, Cloudera
>>
>> = Sponsors =
>>
>> == Champion ==
>>
>>  * Patrick Hunt
>>
>> == Nominated Mentors ==
>>
>>  * Patrick Hunt
>>  * Tom White
>>
>> == Sponsoring Entity ==
>>
>>  * Apache Incubator PMC
>>
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