On 16 August 2011 12:25, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 August 2011 04:07, Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Hi Sebb,
>>
>> Please feel free to update the document as you see fit. CTR.
>
> OK, I'll give that a try;
> However not sure I have enough karma (I'll find out).

I've updated the ppmc guide, and the pmc guide (which was seriously
out of date as it still referred to CVSROOT!)

However, I cannot synch the web-site, as I'm not in the LDAP unix
group incubator.
So perhaps someone else can synch. the files?

By the way, there are a lot of podling committers who are not members
of the incubator group either:

=>Podling committers missing from incubator group:
aku,alexis,altheim,apurtell,ard,asavory,aslom,asrabkin,avd,bakerkj,benniven,bp,brianf,brucem,btopping,chathura,cos,damjan,ddas,dogacan
eli,eyang,florent,gkesavan,gpetracek,greddin,hasan,hemapani,henry,imeredith,iocanel,jasha,jbonofre,jboulon,jghoman,jkr,jnioche,johan,jrbauer
jstrandberg,jvs,kimballa,krispopat,lahiru,larsgeorge,lrosen,markrmiller,matei,mbaclay,mikemccand,mir,mlp,mmarth,mmeadows,mzl,noble,otis
pauly,pjaol,pramirez,radup,recordond,rjung,rmuir,robweir,rolandw,roughley,rr,sagara,scottbw,shalin,simoneg,simonw,siren,smcclees,stack
stevel,tdunning,theory,thilina,tonit,uli,unico,utr,vmassol,warrenc5,wave,witek,woonsan,yegor

These can be added by any PMC chair:

$ modify_unix_group.pl incubator
-add=aku,alexis,altheim,apurtell,ard,......et cetera..........

> Turns out the incubator group is also set up by infra if the incubator
> is mentioned in the account request.
>
>> We all are trying to reduce ambiguity and stress in the process. Any
>> improvements by you are appreciated.
>>
>> In this case there's no need for consensus. Just reality. ;-)
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, sebb wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 August 2011 01:24, Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>
>>>> The referenced guide now contains this language:
>>>>
>>>> After root creates the new account, the new committer needs to added to
>>>> both
>>>> the committer-? section and the podling section of the
>>>>
>>>> file:https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/subversion/authorization/asf-authorization-template
>>>
>>> There is no committer-? section anymore - this is handled by the LDAP
>>> committers group, which AFAIK is only updateable by infra, and should
>>> be handled as part of account creation.
>>>
>>> However, there is an incubator LDAP group, which AFAIK needs to
>>> include all incubator committers.
>>> The @incubator group deternines which committers are in the Posix
>>> incubator group.
>>> This group-owns all the incubator websites (apart from the ones
>>> auto-deployed by svn push).
>>>
>>> Users are added by running:
>>>
>>> modify_unix_group.pl incubator -add=<comma separated list of user ids>
>>>
>>>> Only PMC chairs (and, for podlings, also Infrastructure volunteers) can
>>>> grant karma. If needed, please post to the general@/dev@/private@ list of
>>>
>>> This is ambiguous - is general@ a podling list, or the Incubator PMC list?
>>>
>>>> your project asking for someone with sufficient karma to grant access to
>>>> the
>>>> new committer.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to add Luke Blanshard (leadpipe) to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/subversion/authorization/asf-authorization-template
>>>>>
>>>>> but I have no access. According to the guide below mentors should be
>>>>> able to do it but it seems there is a further restriction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anybody with write access update the auth file and add "leadpipe"
>>>>> to the OGNL podling please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Authorization file not on LDAP?
>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Luke Blanshard (leadpipe) is only in the incubator group, but he
>>>>> should be also in the ongl group.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to:
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "After root creates the new account, a Mentor updates the
>>>>> authorization file to add the new committer to both the committer-?
>>>>> section and the podling section of the file
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/subversion/authorization/asf-authorization-template";
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this wrong meanwhile? I thought it was LDAP now and I would have
>>>>> to ask the chair to add Luke to the right group?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
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