On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <n...@devtech.com> wrote: > > We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own. As > David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the > Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues. The Incubator is almost > as big as the rest of the ASF combined. David posted a plot chart > reflecting our growth: http://incubator.apache.org/history/
Excellent plot chart. As with most plot charts, the end result is a Rorschach test. I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart: a failure to perform garbage collection. My personal perspective is that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year. That doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases, some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is that those should be the exception rather than the rule. Looking at the current list of projects, we have many that exceed that number. Far exceed that number. In fact the median age is 416 days and the mean age is 536. People here may disagree with my arbitrary date, and that's OK. But my feeling is that there needs to be an expectation that a podling produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they are executing on which will lead to graduation at some point. If they fail to produce such a plan, or fail to execute on that plan (within reason), they should be asked to explain themselves. If they fail to do so, the incubation at the ASF should cease. At the moment, the expectation is that the mentors be the ones to take up this task. For whatever reason, that isn't reliably being done. This causes the board to complain periodically. I am of the belief that the first level of culling needs to be performed at the Incubator level. If we need to appoint a set of grim reapers, lets do so, and I will volunteer to be a part of such an effort. Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki. If others wish to join me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating more than a year: 2007-09-17 JSPWiki 2008-01-06 RAT 2008-05-20 Hama 2008-07-08 Empire-db 2008-08-19 PhotArk 2008-09-02 Etch 2008-09-04 Tashi 2008-09-29 Olio 2008-10-06 VCL 2008-10-09 Droids 2008-11-06 Kato 2008-11-19 Stonehenge 2009-04-24 Ace 2009-05-27 Wink 2009-07-06 VXQuery 2009-07-17 Wookie 2009-11-05 HISE 2009-11-27 Clerezza 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF) 2010-02-21 SIS 2010-03-01 Bean Validation 2010-05-09 Amber 2010-05-19 Deltacloud 2010-05-21 Zeta Components 2010-06-24 Nuvem 2010-07-14 Chukwa 2010-07-22 Lucy 2010-08-13 NPanday 2010-09-07 Isis 2010-09-26 Gora 2010-10-03 Kitty 2010-11-02 Celix 2010-11-15 Stanbol - Sam Ruby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
