On 24 November 2011 15:18, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Coordination problems (getting everyone here on the same page) > require community documentation and constant pointers to said > documentation in order to be fully resolved. > > Whenever we find ourselves making contradicting statements over > time, the healthy thing to do is to put together such a document > on the wiki or on the site that explains what happened and how > we resolved it.
Indeed, that is mainly why Ant and I raised questions on board@ about what a release means, and for clarifications on the Release FAQ. Unfortunately, there was no definitive conclusion to the thread, and no clarifications of the FAQ. > > Simply referring to past emails here is inconclusive at best > unless they are comments from the chair. +1 > YMMV > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 10:14 AM >> Subject: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem, or does the Incubator sometimes >> just make it look that way? >> >> When the hot air manufacturers start ragging on us, one of the usual >> tags that they paint is 'rules' and 'bureaucracy'. If you read >> general@, you will see a fairly regular occurrence that feeds this >> perception. >> >> Someone poses a question about NOTICE files, or IP, or release structure. >> >> If they are lucky, they get 3 disagreeing responses in short order. >> Why lucky? Because that gives them a clue that perhaps none of them >> are the right answer. If they are unlucky, they get a one answer, >> confidently worded. And then they put in hours of work based on that >> answer. >> >> Time passes. A release, or even a graduation vote arrives. Suddenly, >> some crusty veteran arrives on the scene to tell them that what >> they've done is wrong, or inadequate, or purple. >> >> This is not precisely wonderful from a PR standpoint. >> >> What can we do as a PMC to improve this? >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org