Hi Bertrand,

It looks like this issue is well understood and I have no concerns that the incubating community will take appropriate steps during incubation to resolve any remaining issues regarding the name.

Craig

On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Craig L Russell
<craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote:
...
On 12/20/2011 4:24 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

The proposal says "Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and
websites should be allowed to continue using “Flex” as part of their
name - Apache Flex will have to create guidelines for that."

...A quick search of the internet shows these potential conflicts as well:

flex.org run by Adobe Platform Evangelism Team; will this site die or will
Apache be expected to maintain it with volunteers?...

I have no idea, but if it continues to exist and points to Apache Flex
I have no problem with that.

http://www.gnu.org/software/flex/

Fun - same name for something totally different. IMO this deserves a
"there are other FLEXs out there" page on the Apache Flex website. No
big deal.

flex.at © 2008 Flex. All rights reserved. Site by instant>>>>

Hard to say what that is from their frontpage...tv or radio show? Not
confusing IMO.


flex.com ISP in Hawaii

An ISP. Not confusing.

openshift.redhat.com/app/flex

The full name is "Openshift Flex", which clears the confusion with
"Apache Flex". Like when someone asks "which Craig are you talking
about"?

This list shows that "Flex" is a fairly generic adjective/qualifier/ something.

This hasn't been a problem for Adobe so far - everybody who should
know knows what "Adobe Flex" is, I imagine the same will continue once
it's "Apache Flex".


...I'd really like to have trademarks and legal take a closer look at this... We know what a nightmare name conflicts are, even when the name in question
is as well-known and well-understood as this one....

I don't think this is needed now.

As I wrote a few minutes ago in this thread, Flex is *entering* the
incubator with this name. There's plenty of time during incubation to
verify that the name works, and if not it can be changed.

-Bertrand

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