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On Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM, "Joe Schaefer" <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
> without any changes taking place.  That some of you doubt we even have a
> problem here is the sad part of the state of the incubator.

We have a problem. We put the sign-of in place to identify which projects
are affected by the problem. If the IPMC is accepting reports that are not
signed off that is a different problem.

Ross

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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ant elder <antel...@apache.org>
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >>  I hate the fact that these discussions continue to happen in a vacuum
> >>  devoid of any grasp of the reality that mentors typically don't do
> >>  a fucking thing for their podlings.  No they don't discuss reports
> >>  on list, nor do they offer opinions on how to grow a smallish
podling's
> >>  committer base, nor do they bother to sign reports even tho we have
> >>  repeatedly requested they do so.
> >>
> >>  There are over a DOZEN unsigned reports RIGHT NOW in the current
> > month's
> >>  reports.  If you bother to do any research to see if those podlings
have
> >>  had any dev-list discussion about it, you will be disappointed.
Reports
> >>  are treated as a bureaucratic formality that nobody bothers to read.
> > Period.
> >>
> >
> > Joe I don't actually disagree with you that a sometimes some mentors
> > don't do much but just earlier in this thread we were talking about
> > requiring mentors sign off on the reports didn't you described that as
> > "lame"?
> >
> >    ...ant
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