Hi, [Forking a new thread thread to make this easier to track.]
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorDeconstructionProposal As already mentioned by others, instead of deconstructing everything in one go, wouldn't it make more sense to gradually shift into a new way of doing things? You're proposing that podlings should start as full TLPs (with ASF members on board for mentoring) right from the beginning. Instead of changing the rules on all podlings at the same time, how about we try this out by giving interested podlings (or new proposals) this "direct to TLP" option? If that works out better than the current Incubator model, we can stop accepting more old-style podlings and just direct them into TLPs right from the beginning. Meanwhile any existing podlings should have a chance to graduate under the existing rules unless they rather choose to use this "direct to TLP" option. If as a result there's no more podlings in the Incubator, that's IMHO then the right time to shut down the IPMC, not before. And if it turns out that the proposed new model doesn't work as expected, we still have the current processes and structures to fall back to. The current Incubator model certainly has flaws, but it also does a lot of things right. There are good reasons for things like the extra publicity and release constraints placed on podlings, and the proposed model doesn't address how such restrictions would still work without the incubator. I note that many of the original constraints of the Incubator (no releases, etc.) turned out to be unnecessarily strict in practice, so it could well be that everything will work out smoothly also without the extra red tape. But small, reversible steps into such unknown territory are clearly preferable to major leaps of faith. BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org