+1 on this. Work the bugs out before everyone transitions. Karl
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > [Forking a new thread thread to make this easier to track.] > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorDeconstructionProposal > > As already mentioned by others, instead of deconstructing everything > in one go, wouldn't it make more sense to gradually shift into a new > way of doing things? > > You're proposing that podlings should start as full TLPs (with ASF > members on board for mentoring) right from the beginning. Instead of > changing the rules on all podlings at the same time, how about we try > this out by giving interested podlings (or new proposals) this "direct > to TLP" option? > > If that works out better than the current Incubator model, we can stop > accepting more old-style podlings and just direct them into TLPs right > from the beginning. Meanwhile any existing podlings should have a > chance to graduate under the existing rules unless they rather choose > to use this "direct to TLP" option. > > If as a result there's no more podlings in the Incubator, that's IMHO > then the right time to shut down the IPMC, not before. And if it turns > out that the proposed new model doesn't work as expected, we still > have the current processes and structures to fall back to. > > The current Incubator model certainly has flaws, but it also does a > lot of things right. There are good reasons for things like the extra > publicity and release constraints placed on podlings, and the proposed > model doesn't address how such restrictions would still work without > the incubator. I note that many of the original constraints of the > Incubator (no releases, etc.) turned out to be unnecessarily strict in > practice, so it could well be that everything will work out smoothly > also without the extra red tape. But small, reversible steps into such > unknown territory are clearly preferable to major leaps of faith. > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
