On 2/6/2012 12:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> > wrote: >> My biggest problem is that the proposal moves undefined responsibilities to >> ComDev while none of the candidates have actually spoken to ComDev about >> this.... > > As a comdev PMC member, I am opposed to making that PMC responsible > for the incubator.apache.org docs. I don't think comdev has any spare > capacity at the moment, so I don't see the docs improving there. > > -Bertrand > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorDeconstructionProposal
Note that I had proposed something slightly different, where ComDev would own all process docs which apply to the smooth functioning of all projects, incubating or TLP. Its guidelines wouldn't be focused on IP for example (that's on the VP, Legal) but on the health and well being of project communities. Most of these documents are already written, and simply need to be updated to state "Here are recommendations to all projects; these are mandatory requirements for incubating projects". Incubation docs, which are rules by-reference-to the general process docs, plus the incubation wiki would all still be on VP, Project Incubation, and their small officer committee to edit and maintain them. I'd gather that you and Luciano don't believe that the committee has even that bandwidth. But I'd suggest there are individuals at incubator whose primary interest is documenting the process. If the ComDev adopted these general documents, I trust you would gather new participants at ComDev. By filtering "incubation rules" as part of VP, Project Incubation role along with the board's decisions, those debates don't have to fall onto ComDev. If ComDev wants to switch a general suggestion into a requirement or a requirement into a suggestion for all TLP's, that would be for them to discuss and increase the traffic on the ComDev list. Again, the very guts of the Chris proposed deconstruction is that there are rules, and there are recommendations for every ASF project to follow, and this artificial incubating v.s. tlp distinction is a bit absurd. The only delta should those few suggestions to all projects which are actually so important that they are requirements on the incubating projects, until graduation. Note that transitioning "best practices" documentations into asf-wide, www.apache.org/dev/* resources under ComDev could happen at any point, independent of all the proposals on the table. If it's what both ComDev and Incubator want to do. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
