On Dec 11, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

> 
> On Dec 10, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> 
>> I would be most grateful if the shepherd was willing to give the stone
>> a shove down that hill.
> 
> Martjin deserves all the credit, but two shoves (email on etch-dev last week 
> plus report) have had an effect.
> 
> There is a graduation VOTE underway with 3 +1 out of the 5 proposed PMC 
> members.
> 
> My third shove's success is unknown...

All future PMC members have voted +1. I expect that there will be a VOTE 
brought to general@ soon.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these
>>>>> have been fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> etch: no signoffs
>>>> 
>>>> Just did my signoff and added a personal observation:
>>>> 
>>>> The processes in this podling are really like trying to pour molasses 
>>>> through
>>>> a funnel in the winter. That said, I do think that the project is viable 
>>>> and
>>>> an Apache community albeit a small, slow moving one. Given the nature of 
>>>> the
>>>> project and its usage in automobile technology I don't think it will ever 
>>>> be
>>>> as fast moving as a web or big data project. And that is not a bad thing 
>>>> for
>>>> this type of software IMO.
>>> 
>>> My shepherd view agrees. Molasses is apt. I think a little Rum would help. 
>>> Let's get this podling graduated!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Martijn
>>>> 
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