On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:36 PM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term > "retired" is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places > in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?
Question comes up from time to time, I don't see it's well understood. > Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really > retired now and they should just be changed to that. Were there ever dormant podlings? Maybe there is a difference in the terms itself, but when ever we saw a podling became inactive we would discuss to retire them. Not sure anybody ever said "oh we have no committers, but I have heard next month comes a bunch of them". Or if there is just little activity, would you really go to a project and tell them they are dormant now and will retire in a few months? This all is just more overhead with no benefit for me. Cheers Christian > > ...ant > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: > >> If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome >> back to the fold, should they so desire. >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. >> >> >> >> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but >> >> believe later on we can build it back up. >> >> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think >> it's >> >> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and >> allow >> >> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go. >> > >> > The difference is one goes to github and one does not? >> > >> > After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire. >> > Retired projects >> > can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on GitHub >> or not. >> > >> > Not enough for me to maintain two terms. >> > >> >> >> >> Just my 2 cents.. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier < >> grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all to >> >>> dormant? >> >>> >> >>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> Alan >> >>>> >> >>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. >> Using >> >>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible >> for >> >>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Upayavira >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> >>>>>> They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want to retire? >> Does >> >>>>>> anyone know? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>> Alan >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >> grobme...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from >> Henri >> >>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid to delete a >> >>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control". >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hen" >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera <a...@toolazydogs.com >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the >> >>> difference is. 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