Thank you very much,
I have not included the proposal to the Incubator wiki yet.
How can I do that?

Thanks
Kureem


On 5 September 2013 00:09, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice!
>
> Have you included your proposal to the Incubator wiki?
> I would like to forward it to the Struts team, some might be interested.
>
> I have no time to actually code, but I might help with incubation
> (mentoring or championing). Before deciding on that, I would like to
> hear if there is interest of others here.
>
> Am 04.09.13 15:04, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> > "*once could use Castafiore
> > in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used as
> > a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles, JSP
> > whatever. Is that correct?*"
> >
> > Correct!
> > Actually I myself did not get the idea that it could be used like that.
> Yes
> > it can be used like that.
> > Actually, a castafiore application (which can be a simple table) can be
> > included on a page using a simple javascript or a jsp tag. So why not a
> > struts plugin.
> > Actually I have tried it as an echo2 framework component. It works just
> > nice.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your interest
> >
> > Ragards,
> > Kureem
> >
> >
> > On 4 September 2013 15:32, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Kureem,
> >>
> >> this sounds nice. As far as I understood it, once could use Castafiore
> >> in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used as
> >> a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles, JSP
> >> whatever. Is that correct?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 04.09.13 10:01, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Indeed, I have read the incubation proposal guide. The only thing I
> could
> >>> not figure out is how to recruit a champion.
> >>> However, after re-reading the guide, I missed something. I should have
> >>> prefixed the subject of the mail with [PROPOSAL]. So I am resending the
> >>> proposal with the proper subject.
> >>>
> >>> **********************************************************************
> >>> PROPOSAL
> >>> Abstract
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component oriented,
> ajax
> >>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be viewed as a
> >>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been
> designed
> >>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able to
> make
> >>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the framework
> >>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui and use
> the
> >>> components and features via java. The integration of the javascript
> >>> libraries need to be easy and natural.
> >>>
> >>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their components
> >>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt that is
> >> much
> >>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive.
> >>> Proposal
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the
> following
> >>> goals in mind
> >>>
> >>>    1.
> >>>
> >>>    Fully object oriented
> >>>    2.
> >>>
> >>>    Simple API that is very close to html itself
> >>>    We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and javascripts event
> >>>    model. I believe that this would help web developers easily
> visualize
> >> the
> >>>    rendering when reading source code.
> >>>    3.
> >>>
> >>>    Write a full application with only java
> >>>    4.
> >>>
> >>>    No need for compiler to convert to javascript like gwt.Javascript is
> >>>    rendered at runtime.
> >>>    5.
> >>>
> >>>    The same API can be used to make an software that is server centric
> >> and
> >>>    or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his
> >> application
> >>>    server centric and part of his application client centric. He can of
> >> course
> >>>    choose to make the whole application client centric or server
> centric
> >>>    depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API.
> >>>    6.
> >>>
> >>>    Low memory footprint
> >>>    7.
> >>>
> >>>    Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in a
> single
> >>>    jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well
> >>>    8.
> >>>
> >>>    Same API used to create custom components. No need to external set
> of
> >>>    API or specific programming technique to create custom components.
> >> Creating
> >>>    a custom components should be done only the same way as writing an
> >>>    application.
> >>>    9.
> >>>
> >>>    No need for javascript to create custom components.
> >>>    10.
> >>>
> >>>    Although there is no need for javascript to create an application,
> it
> >>>    should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and use
> >> them in
> >>>    java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just like we
> >> would
> >>>    do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that javascript
> >> library
> >>>    authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to provide a
> >>>    castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The author of
> >> flexgrid
> >>>    should should find it easy to create a castafiore component thus
> >> making his
> >>>    library usable directly in java.
> >>>
> >>>  *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for javascript
> >>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and
> distribute
> >>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able to
> >>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very convenient for
> >>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, and
> using
> >>> the library, components and feature right away in their web application
> >> in
> >>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very
> >> lightweight
> >>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java developer
> is
> >>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to just
> drop
> >>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it right
> >> away.
> >>> Very practical.*
> >>>
> >>>    1.
> >>>
> >>>    Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and
> efficiently
> >>>    only when needed.
> >>>    2.
> >>>
> >>>    Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API user
> wish
> >>>    so.
> >>>    3.
> >>>
> >>>    The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an
> application
> >>>    created with the framework can be used in an already created page.
> >> This
> >>>    allows API developer to use the framework only for very specific
> >> purposes
> >>>    like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time using other
> >> web
> >>>    framework like struts for the other sections of the application.
> >>>    4.
> >>>
> >>>    Although a whole application can be created using pure java, the
> >>>    framework should be able to integrate templates.
> >>>    5.
> >>>
> >>>    By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and
> presentation.
> >>>    Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html template,
> and
> >>>    dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the template.
> >>>    6.
> >>>
> >>>    On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he is able
> >> to
> >>>    write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template engine.
> >>>    7.
> >>>
> >>>    The API user should be able to easily use any template engine he
> >> wishes
> >>>    easily and naturally.
> >>>    8.
> >>>
> >>>    Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. API user
> >>>    should be able to write events in java that starts executing on the
> >>>    browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue
> >> executing on
> >>>    the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a button that
> >> starts
> >>>    by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters and
> >> execute
> >>>    codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter from the
> >> server
> >>>    to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This technique
> >> if used
> >>>    skillfully helps to create very smooth application that constantly
> >>>    communicates with the server without any flicker
> >>>    9.
> >>>
> >>>    Support for websocket when the browser supports it.
> >>>    10.
> >>>
> >>>    Support for HTML5
> >>>    11.
> >>>
> >>>    Same API to write SVG applications.
> >>>    12.
> >>>
> >>>    Same API to write html5 canva application.
> >>>    13.
> >>>
> >>>    Support for browser back button
> >>>    14.
> >>>
> >>>    Crawlable by google crawler
> >>>    15.
> >>>
> >>>    Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of
> re-usable
> >>>    components
> >>>    16.
> >>>
> >>>    Handle browser quirks
> >>>    17.
> >>>
> >>>    Built in validation
> >>>
> >>> Background
> >>>
> >>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back 3years ago
> >> by
> >>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in production. A
> >>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of applications like
> >>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization management
> >> system
> >>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many websites
> >>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce website were
> >>> also created using the framework.
> >>>
> >>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to build a
> >>> community and see it strive
> >>> Rationale
> >>>
> >>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that address
> >> all
> >>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web
> applications
> >>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and css and
> at
> >>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also the need
> >> for
> >>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and client
> >>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made client
> >>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole application
> can
> >> be
> >>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole application
> >>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page oriented
> >>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time implement only
> >>> very specific parts using the framework.
> >>>
> >>> Today many javascript library providers and making their libraries
> >>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs
> >>>
> >>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components with GWT
> >> can
> >>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and stabilize.
> Not
> >>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively client
> >>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web
> services.
> >>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript
> >> libraries
> >>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize components
> >> since
> >>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript.
> >>>
> >>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an excellent
> >>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer over
> >>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which helps to
> >> write
> >>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery.
> >>>
> >>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to the
> >>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact with
> the
> >>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very smooth
> >>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the server
> and
> >>> progressively render new components.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML 5 api
> >> like
> >>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure java.
> >> This
> >>> is pretty exciting.
> >>>
> >>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js
> libraries
> >> as
> >>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature js
> >> libraries
> >>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily
> >>> Current Status
> >>>
> >>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being used in
> >>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The javadocs
> >> and
> >>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many components
> that
> >>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create more
> >>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of every
> >>> programmer.
> >>>
> >>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes
> >>>
> >>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can publish
> >>> their custom components together with their license and demo
> >>>
> >>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF and host
> it
> >>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to create
> >> custom
> >>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to download
> >> or
> >>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript library
> >> authors
> >>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, we need
> to
> >>> stabilize and increase security level on the application.
> >>>  Meritocracy
> >>>
> >>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our intent to
> >> build
> >>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will conduct
> itself
> >>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of accepting
> >>> contributions.
> >>> Community
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within Archnet
> Ltd
> >> by
> >>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and build a
> >>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to provide all
> >>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help
> anybody
> >>> interested in contributing on the project.
> >>> Core Developers
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye
> >>> Alignment
> >>>
> >>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, given the
> >> goal
> >>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow and
> >> support
> >>> the software.
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on apache-tomcat and
> >>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7
> >>> Known Risks Orphaned Products
> >>>
> >>> There is currently one single developer for this project. However, this
> >> is
> >>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order to
> >> create a
> >>> community in order make the project less dependent on only myself. I
> also
> >>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and documentation to
> >>> help those interested to get started with the project.
> >>>
> >>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give clear
> >>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody modify,
> >>> enhance it.
> >>>
> >>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my company
> >>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in Mauritius.
> >>> Inexperience with Open Source
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has never
> >>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to do so.
> >>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I believe
> I
> >>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache Incubator
> >>> guidelines.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Homogenous Developers
> >>>
> >>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. This is
> >>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. In
> order
> >> to
> >>> be able to attract developers from various countries and companies. As
> I
> >>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide everything
> >> required
> >>> to help get started with contributing on this project.
> >>> Reliance on Salaried Developers
> >>>
> >>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my
> company,
> >>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for this
> >>> project.
> >>>  Relationships with Other Apache Products
> >>>
> >>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and tested on
> >>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses
> >> exclusively
> >>> the implementation provided by apache 7
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> >>>
> >>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no doubts
> >> that
> >>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is primarily to
> give
> >>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an
> >> established
> >>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale and
> >>> Alignment sections.
> >>> Documentation
> >>>
> >>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon
> >>> Initial Source
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework
> >>>  Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >>>
> >>> All the codes are available online on github.
> >>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is very easy
> >> for
> >>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the ASF.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  External Dependencies
> >>>
> >>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. They are
> >> all
> >>> Apache compatible.
> >>> Cryptography
> >>>
> >>> Not applicable.
> >>> Required Resources Mailing Lists
> >>>
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    castafiore-private for private PMC discussions
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    castafiore-dev
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    castafiore-commits
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    castafiore-user
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    castafiore-issues
> >>>
> >>> Subversion Directory
> >>>
> >>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git://
> >>> git.apache.org/castafiore
> >>> Issue Tracking
> >>>
> >>> JIRA Castafiore
> >>> Initial Committers
> >>>
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>    Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com)
> >>>
> >>> Affiliations
> >>>
> >>> Archnetltd
> >>> Interested Parties
> >>>
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors
> >>>
> >>>    -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sponsoring Entity
> >>>
> >>> Incubator PMC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Kureem
> >>>
> >>> On 4 September 2013 11:42, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>> <andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
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> >>>> I think Kureem already knows the incubation process.
> >>>> He is looking for a java champion. Since he already has a first draft
> of
> >>>> his proposal, I asked him to copy it
> >>>> so people interessed could have an idea what the project is about.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry if my communication caused any inconvenience
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Crossley <cross...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Kureem Rossaye wrote:
> >>>>>>  Hello community,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> please find below a proposal I wish to submit to the ASF. I am new
> >> here
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> was told that I could paste the proposal here. So here we are.
> >>>>> That was misleading to simply say that. There is quite a process
> >>>>> which will all be beneficial.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Awaiting reply, recommendation and feedback and will be pleased to
> >>>> answer
> >>>>>> any questions.
> >>>>> Please review the Incubator website. There are instructions
> >>>>> about the process for Proposals.
> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/
> >>>>> In the top-left see the link to the "Proposal Guide".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>> Abstract
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component oriented,
> >>>> ajax
> >>>>>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be viewed
> as
> >> a
> >>>>>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been
> >>>> designed
> >>>>>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able to
> >>>> make
> >>>>>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the
> framework
> >>>>>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui and
> use
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> components and features via java. The integration of the javascript
> >>>>>> libraries need to be easy and natural.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their
> components
> >>>>>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt that
> is
> >>>>> much
> >>>>>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive.
> >>>>>> Proposal
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the
> >>>> following
> >>>>>> goals in mind
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Fully object oriented
> >>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Simple API that is very close to html itself
> >>>>>>    We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and javascripts
> >> event
> >>>>>>    model. I believe that this would help web developers easily
> >>>> visualize
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>    rendering when reading source code.
> >>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Write a full application with only java
> >>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    No need for compiler to convert to javascript like gwt.Javascript
> >> is
> >>>>>>    rendered at runtime.
> >>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    The same API can be used to make an software that is server
> centric
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>    or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his
> >>>>> application
> >>>>>>    server centric and part of his application client centric. He can
> >> of
> >>>>> course
> >>>>>>    choose to make the whole application client centric or server
> >>>> centric
> >>>>>>    depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API.
> >>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Low memory footprint
> >>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in a
> >>>> single
> >>>>>>    jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well
> >>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Same API used to create custom components. No need to external
> set
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>    API or specific programming technique to create custom
> components.
> >>>>> Creating
> >>>>>>    a custom components should be done only the same way as writing
> an
> >>>>>>    application.
> >>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    No need for javascript to create custom components.
> >>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Although there is no need for javascript to create an
> application,
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>    should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and use
> >>>>> them in
> >>>>>>    java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just like
> >> we
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>>    do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that javascript
> >>>>> library
> >>>>>>    authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to
> provide a
> >>>>>>    castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The author
> of
> >>>>> flexgrid
> >>>>>>    should should find it easy to create a castafiore component thus
> >>>>> making his
> >>>>>>    library usable directly in java.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for javascript
> >>>>>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and
> >>>> distribute
> >>>>>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able to
> >>>>>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very convenient
> >> for
> >>>>>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, and
> >>>> using
> >>>>>> the library, components and feature right away in their web
> >> application
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very
> >>>>> lightweight
> >>>>>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java
> developer
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to just
> >>>> drop
> >>>>>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it
> right
> >>>>> away.
> >>>>>> Very practical.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and
> >>>> efficiently
> >>>>>>    only when needed.
> >>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API user
> >>>> wish
> >>>>>>    so.
> >>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an
> >>>> application
> >>>>>>    created with the framework can be used in an already created
> page.
> >>>>> This
> >>>>>>    allows API developer to use the framework only for very specific
> >>>>> purposes
> >>>>>>    like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time using
> >> other
> >>>>> web
> >>>>>>    framework like struts for the other sections of the application.
> >>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Although a whole application can be created using pure java, the
> >>>>>>    framework should be able to integrate templates.
> >>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and
> >>>> presentation.
> >>>>>>    Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html
> template,
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>    dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the
> >> template.
> >>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he is
> >> able
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>    write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template
> engine.
> >>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    The API user should be able to easily use any template engine he
> >>>>> wishes
> >>>>>>    easily and naturally.
> >>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. API
> >> user
> >>>>>>    should be able to write events in java that starts executing on
> the
> >>>>>>    browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue
> >>>>> executing on
> >>>>>>    the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a button
> >> that
> >>>>> starts
> >>>>>>    by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters and
> >>>>> execute
> >>>>>>    codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter from
> >> the
> >>>>> server
> >>>>>>    to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This
> technique
> >>>>> if used
> >>>>>>    skillfully helps to create very smooth application that
> constantly
> >>>>>>    communicates with the server without any flicker
> >>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Support for websocket when the browser supports it.
> >>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Support for HTML5
> >>>>>>    11.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Same API to write SVG applications.
> >>>>>>    12.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Same API to write html5 canva application.
> >>>>>>    13.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Support for browser back button
> >>>>>>    14.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Crawlable by google crawler
> >>>>>>    15.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of
> >>>> re-usable
> >>>>>>    components
> >>>>>>    16.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Handle browser quirks
> >>>>>>    17.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Built in validation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Background
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back 3years
> >> ago
> >>>>> by
> >>>>>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in
> production. A
> >>>>>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of applications
> like
> >>>>>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization management
> >>>>> system
> >>>>>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many
> websites
> >>>>>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce website
> >> were
> >>>>>> also created using the framework.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to build
> a
> >>>>>> community and see it strive
> >>>>>> Rationale
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that
> >> address
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web
> >>>> applications
> >>>>>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and css
> and
> >>>> at
> >>>>>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also the
> >> need
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and
> client
> >>>>>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made
> >> client
> >>>>>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole application
> >>>> can
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole
> >> application
> >>>>>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page oriented
> >>>>>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time implement
> >> only
> >>>>>> very specific parts using the framework.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Today many javascript library providers and making their libraries
> >>>>>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components with
> >> GWT
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and stabilize.
> >>>> Not
> >>>>>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively client
> >>>>>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web
> >>>> services.
> >>>>>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript
> >>>>> libraries
> >>>>>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize
> components
> >>>>> since
> >>>>>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an excellent
> >>>>>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer
> over
> >>>>>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which helps to
> >>>>> write
> >>>>>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to the
> >>>>>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact with
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very
> smooth
> >>>>>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the
> server
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> progressively render new components.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML 5
> api
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure
> java.
> >>>>> This
> >>>>>> is pretty exciting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js
> >>>> libraries
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature js
> >>>>> libraries
> >>>>>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily
> >>>>>> Current Status
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being used
> >> in
> >>>>>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The
> >> javadocs
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many components
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create
> more
> >>>>>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of every
> >>>>>> programmer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can
> >> publish
> >>>>>> their custom components together with their license and demo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF and
> host
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to create
> >>>>> custom
> >>>>>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to
> >> download
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript library
> >>>>> authors
> >>>>>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, we
> need
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> stabilize and increase security level on the application.
> >>>>>>  Meritocracy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our intent
> to
> >>>>> build
> >>>>>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will conduct
> >>>> itself
> >>>>>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of accepting
> >>>>>> contributions.
> >>>>>> Community
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within Archnet
> >>>> Ltd
> >>>>> by
> >>>>>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and
> build
> >> a
> >>>>>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to provide
> all
> >>>>>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help
> >>>> anybody
> >>>>>> interested in contributing on the project.
> >>>>>> Core Developers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>> Alignment
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, given
> the
> >>>>> goal
> >>>>>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow and
> >>>>> support
> >>>>>> the software.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on apache-tomcat
> >> and
> >>>>>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7
> >>>>>> Known Risks Orphaned Products
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is currently one single developer for this project. However,
> >> this
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order to
> >>>>> create a
> >>>>>> community in order make the project less dependent on only myself. I
> >>>> also
> >>>>>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and documentation
> >> to
> >>>>>> help those interested to get started with the project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give
> clear
> >>>>>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody
> modify,
> >>>>>> enhance it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my company
> >>>>>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in Mauritius.
> >>>>>> Inexperience with Open Source
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has never
> >>>>>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to do
> so.
> >>>>>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I
> believe
> >>>> I
> >>>>>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache
> Incubator
> >>>>>> guidelines.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Homogenous Developers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. This
> is
> >>>>>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. In
> >>>> order
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> be able to attract developers from various countries and companies.
> As
> >>>> I
> >>>>>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide everything
> >>>>> required
> >>>>>> to help get started with contributing on this project.
> >>>>>> Reliance on Salaried Developers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my
> >>>> company,
> >>>>>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for this
> >>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>  Relationships with Other Apache Products
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and tested
> on
> >>>>>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses
> >>>>> exclusively
> >>>>>> the implementation provided by apache 7
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no
> doubts
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is primarily to
> >>>> give
> >>>>>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an
> >>>>> established
> >>>>>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale and
> >>>>>> Alignment sections.
> >>>>>> Documentation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon
> >>>>>> Initial Source
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework
> >>>>>>  Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the codes are available online on github.
> >>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is very
> >> easy
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the
> ASF.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  External Dependencies
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. They
> >> are
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>> Apache compatible.
> >>>>>> Cryptography
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not applicable.
> >>>>>> Required Resources Mailing Lists
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    castafiore-private for private PMC discussions
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    castafiore-dev
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    castafiore-commits
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    castafiore-user
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    castafiore-issues
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Subversion Directory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git://
> >>>>>> git.apache.org/castafiore
> >>>>>> Issue Tracking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JIRA Castafiore
> >>>>>> Initial Committers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Affiliations
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Archnetltd
> >>>>>> Interested Parties
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sponsoring Entity
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Incubator PMC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 30 August 2013 11:55, Kureem Rossaye <kur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 30 August 2013 10:26, Andy Van Den Heuvel <
> >>>>> andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>>>>>>> Kureem,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think it's best to copy your proposal here, so people can see
> what
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> are exactly trying to solve.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Kureem Rossaye <kur...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am Kureem Rossaye. I have create a web framework which is
> >>>> already
> >>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>> used in production. Now I would like to give the framework
> >>>>> opensource
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> of course the most natural place to start is Apache. I have
> >>>> already
> >>>>>>>> written
> >>>>>>>>> a proposal to submit to the incubation. However, I have the
> >>>>> following
> >>>>>>>>> questions.
> >>>>>>>>> 1. If I am not mistaken I need to hire a champion. Could you
> >>>> please
> >>>>>>>> help me
> >>>>>>>>> how to do this
> >>>>>>>>> 2. How I submit the proposal?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>>>>> Skype : arkureem
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.archnetltd.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>>> Skype : arkureem
> >>>>>>> http://www.archnetltd.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>> Skype : arkureem
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