Thank you. hope this works out. If there is anything I can do, please ask.
Kureem On 5 September 2013 16:55, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perfect! > > I will now ask on the Struts list if there are some people interested > > Thanks! > > Am 05.09.13 14:42, schrieb Kureem Rossaye: > > Done! > > Kureem > > Am 05.09.13 07:09, schrieb Kureem Rossaye: > >> Thank you very much, > >> I have not included the proposal to the Incubator wiki yet. > >> How can I do that? > > Create an account here: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ > > > > Then mail your username to this list, askinf for access. You'll be > > granted then. > > > > Then you can add your proposal here: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals > > > > I assume you know this link already: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html > > > > Please try to make the proposal look similar to the others on the wiki. > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > On 5 September 2013 12:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Am 05.09.13 07:09, schrieb Kureem Rossaye: > >>> Thank you very much, > >>> I have not included the proposal to the Incubator wiki yet. > >>> How can I do that? > >> Create an account here: > >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ > >> > >> Then mail your username to this list, askinf for access. You'll be > >> granted then. > >> > >> Then you can add your proposal here: > >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals > >> > >> I assume you know this link already: > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html > >> > >> Please try to make the proposal look similar to the others on the wiki. > >> > >> Cheers! > >> > >> Christian > >>> Thanks > >>> Kureem > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5 September 2013 00:09, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> Nice! > >>>> > >>>> Have you included your proposal to the Incubator wiki? > >>>> I would like to forward it to the Struts team, some might be > interested. > >>>> > >>>> I have no time to actually code, but I might help with incubation > >>>> (mentoring or championing). Before deciding on that, I would like to > >>>> hear if there is interest of others here. > >>>> > >>>> Am 04.09.13 15:04, schrieb Kureem Rossaye: > >>>>> "*once could use Castafiore > >>>>> in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used > as > >>>>> a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles, > JSP > >>>>> whatever. Is that correct?*" > >>>>> > >>>>> Correct! > >>>>> Actually I myself did not get the idea that it could be used like > that. > >>>> Yes > >>>>> it can be used like that. > >>>>> Actually, a castafiore application (which can be a simple table) can > be > >>>>> included on a page using a simple javascript or a jsp tag. So why > not a > >>>>> struts plugin. > >>>>> Actually I have tried it as an echo2 framework component. It works > just > >>>>> nice. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for your interest > >>>>> > >>>>> Ragards, > >>>>> Kureem > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4 September 2013 15:32, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Kureem, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> this sounds nice. As far as I understood it, once could use > Castafiore > >>>>>> in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used > >> as > >>>>>> a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles, > >> JSP > >>>>>> whatever. Is that correct? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 04.09.13 10:01, schrieb Kureem Rossaye: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> Indeed, I have read the incubation proposal guide. The only thing I > >>>> could > >>>>>>> not figure out is how to recruit a champion. > >>>>>>> However, after re-reading the guide, I missed something. I should > >> have > >>>>>>> prefixed the subject of the mail with [PROPOSAL]. So I am resending > >> the > >>>>>>> proposal with the proper subject. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> ********************************************************************** > >>>>>>> PROPOSAL > >>>>>>> Abstract > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component oriented, > >>>> ajax > >>>>>>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be viewed > >> as a > >>>>>>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been > >>>> designed > >>>>>>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able to > >>>> make > >>>>>>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the > framework > >>>>>>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui and > use > >>>> the > >>>>>>> components and features via java. The integration of the javascript > >>>>>>> libraries need to be easy and natural. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their > >> components > >>>>>>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt that > >> is > >>>>>> much > >>>>>>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive. > >>>>>>> Proposal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the > >>>> following > >>>>>>> goals in mind > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Fully object oriented > >>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Simple API that is very close to html itself > >>>>>>> We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and javascripts > >> event > >>>>>>> model. I believe that this would help web developers easily > >>>> visualize > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> rendering when reading source code. > >>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Write a full application with only java > >>>>>>> 4. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No need for compiler to convert to javascript like > gwt.Javascript > >> is > >>>>>>> rendered at runtime. > >>>>>>> 5. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The same API can be used to make an software that is server > >> centric > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his > >>>>>> application > >>>>>>> server centric and part of his application client centric. He > can > >> of > >>>>>> course > >>>>>>> choose to make the whole application client centric or server > >>>> centric > >>>>>>> depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API. > >>>>>>> 6. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Low memory footprint > >>>>>>> 7. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in a > >>>> single > >>>>>>> jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well > >>>>>>> 8. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Same API used to create custom components. No need to external > set > >>>> of > >>>>>>> API or specific programming technique to create custom > components. > >>>>>> Creating > >>>>>>> a custom components should be done only the same way as writing > an > >>>>>>> application. > >>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No need for javascript to create custom components. > >>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Although there is no need for javascript to create an > application, > >>>> it > >>>>>>> should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and > use > >>>>>> them in > >>>>>>> java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just > like > >> we > >>>>>> would > >>>>>>> do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that javascript > >>>>>> library > >>>>>>> authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to > provide > >> a > >>>>>>> castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The author > of > >>>>>> flexgrid > >>>>>>> should should find it easy to create a castafiore component thus > >>>>>> making his > >>>>>>> library usable directly in java. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for javascript > >>>>>>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and > >>>> distribute > >>>>>>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able to > >>>>>>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very convenient > >> for > >>>>>>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, and > >>>> using > >>>>>>> the library, components and feature right away in their web > >> application > >>>>>> in > >>>>>>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very > >>>>>> lightweight > >>>>>>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java > developer > >>>> is > >>>>>>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to just > >>>> drop > >>>>>>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it > right > >>>>>> away. > >>>>>>> Very practical.* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and > >>>> efficiently > >>>>>>> only when needed. > >>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API > user > >>>> wish > >>>>>>> so. > >>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an > >>>> application > >>>>>>> created with the framework can be used in an already created > page. > >>>>>> This > >>>>>>> allows API developer to use the framework only for very specific > >>>>>> purposes > >>>>>>> like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time using > >> other > >>>>>> web > >>>>>>> framework like struts for the other sections of the application. > >>>>>>> 4. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Although a whole application can be created using pure java, the > >>>>>>> framework should be able to integrate templates. > >>>>>>> 5. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and > >>>> presentation. > >>>>>>> Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html > template, > >>>> and > >>>>>>> dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the > >> template. > >>>>>>> 6. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he is > >> able > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template > >> engine. > >>>>>>> 7. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The API user should be able to easily use any template engine he > >>>>>> wishes > >>>>>>> easily and naturally. > >>>>>>> 8. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. API > >> user > >>>>>>> should be able to write events in java that starts executing on > >> the > >>>>>>> browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue > >>>>>> executing on > >>>>>>> the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a button > >> that > >>>>>> starts > >>>>>>> by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters > and > >>>>>> execute > >>>>>>> codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter from > >> the > >>>>>> server > >>>>>>> to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This > >> technique > >>>>>> if used > >>>>>>> skillfully helps to create very smooth application that > constantly > >>>>>>> communicates with the server without any flicker > >>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Support for websocket when the browser supports it. > >>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Support for HTML5 > >>>>>>> 11. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Same API to write SVG applications. > >>>>>>> 12. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Same API to write html5 canva application. > >>>>>>> 13. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Support for browser back button > >>>>>>> 14. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Crawlable by google crawler > >>>>>>> 15. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of > >>>> re-usable > >>>>>>> components > >>>>>>> 16. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Handle browser quirks > >>>>>>> 17. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Built in validation > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Background > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back 3years > >> ago > >>>>>> by > >>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in > production. > >> A > >>>>>>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of applications > >> like > >>>>>>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization management > >>>>>> system > >>>>>>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many > >> websites > >>>>>>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce website > >> were > >>>>>>> also created using the framework. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to > build a > >>>>>>> community and see it strive > >>>>>>> Rationale > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that > >> address > >>>>>> all > >>>>>>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web > >>>> applications > >>>>>>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and css > and > >>>> at > >>>>>>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also the > >> need > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and > >> client > >>>>>>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made > >> client > >>>>>>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole > application > >>>> can > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole > >> application > >>>>>>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page > oriented > >>>>>>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time implement > >> only > >>>>>>> very specific parts using the framework. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Today many javascript library providers and making their libraries > >>>>>>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components with > >> GWT > >>>>>> can > >>>>>>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and > stabilize. > >>>> Not > >>>>>>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively client > >>>>>>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web > >>>> services. > >>>>>>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript > >>>>>> libraries > >>>>>>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize > components > >>>>>> since > >>>>>>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an excellent > >>>>>>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer > over > >>>>>>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which helps > to > >>>>>> write > >>>>>>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to the > >>>>>>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact > with > >>>> the > >>>>>>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very > >> smooth > >>>>>>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the > server > >>>> and > >>>>>>> progressively render new components. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML 5 > api > >>>>>> like > >>>>>>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure > >> java. > >>>>>> This > >>>>>>> is pretty exciting. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js > >>>> libraries > >>>>>> as > >>>>>>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature js > >>>>>> libraries > >>>>>>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily > >>>>>>> Current Status > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being > used > >> in > >>>>>>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The > >> javadocs > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many components > >>>> that > >>>>>>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create > more > >>>>>>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of every > >>>>>>> programmer. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can > >> publish > >>>>>>> their custom components together with their license and demo > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF and > >> host > >>>> it > >>>>>>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to > create > >>>>>> custom > >>>>>>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to > >> download > >>>>>> or > >>>>>>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript library > >>>>>> authors > >>>>>>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, we > >> need > >>>> to > >>>>>>> stabilize and increase security level on the application. > >>>>>>> Meritocracy > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our intent > to > >>>>>> build > >>>>>>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will conduct > >>>> itself > >>>>>>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of accepting > >>>>>>> contributions. > >>>>>>> Community > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within > Archnet > >>>> Ltd > >>>>>> by > >>>>>>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and > >> build a > >>>>>>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to provide > >> all > >>>>>>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help > >>>> anybody > >>>>>>> interested in contributing on the project. > >>>>>>> Core Developers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye > >>>>>>> Alignment > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, given > the > >>>>>> goal > >>>>>>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow and > >>>>>> support > >>>>>>> the software. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on apache-tomcat > >> and > >>>>>>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7 > >>>>>>> Known Risks Orphaned Products > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is currently one single developer for this project. However, > >> this > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order to > >>>>>> create a > >>>>>>> community in order make the project less dependent on only myself. > I > >>>> also > >>>>>>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and > documentation > >> to > >>>>>>> help those interested to get started with the project. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give > >> clear > >>>>>>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody > >> modify, > >>>>>>> enhance it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my > company > >>>>>>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in > Mauritius. > >>>>>>> Inexperience with Open Source > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has never > >>>>>>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to do > >> so. > >>>>>>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I > >> believe > >>>> I > >>>>>>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache > >> Incubator > >>>>>>> guidelines. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Homogenous Developers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. This > is > >>>>>>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. In > >>>> order > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> be able to attract developers from various countries and companies. > >> As > >>>> I > >>>>>>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide everything > >>>>>> required > >>>>>>> to help get started with contributing on this project. > >>>>>>> Reliance on Salaried Developers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my > >>>> company, > >>>>>>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for > this > >>>>>>> project. > >>>>>>> Relationships with Other Apache Products > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and tested > on > >>>>>>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses > >>>>>> exclusively > >>>>>>> the implementation provided by apache 7 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no > >> doubts > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is primarily > to > >>>> give > >>>>>>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an > >>>>>> established > >>>>>>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale and > >>>>>>> Alignment sections. > >>>>>>> Documentation > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon > >>>>>>> Initial Source > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework > >>>>>>> Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All the codes are available online on github. > >>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is very > >> easy > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the > ASF. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> External Dependencies > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. They > >> are > >>>>>> all > >>>>>>> Apache compatible. > >>>>>>> Cryptography > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Not applicable. > >>>>>>> Required Resources Mailing Lists > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> castafiore-private for private PMC discussions > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> castafiore-dev > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> castafiore-commits > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> castafiore-user > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> castafiore-issues > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subversion Directory > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git:// > >>>>>>> git.apache.org/castafiore > >>>>>>> Issue Tracking > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> JIRA Castafiore > >>>>>>> Initial Committers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Affiliations > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Archnetltd > >>>>>>> Interested Parties > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sponsoring Entity > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Incubator PMC > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Kureem > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 4 September 2013 11:42, Andy Van Den Heuvel > >>>>>>> <andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is > >>>>>> eligible > >>>>>>>> for Automatic Cleanup! 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Since he already has a first > >> draft > >>>> of > >>>>>>>> his proposal, I asked him to copy it > >>>>>>>> so people interessed could have an idea what the project is about. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry if my communication caused any inconvenience > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Crossley < > cross...@apache.org > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hello community, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> please find below a proposal I wish to submit to the ASF. I am > new > >>>>>> here > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> was told that I could paste the proposal here. So here we are. > >>>>>>>>> That was misleading to simply say that. There is quite a process > >>>>>>>>> which will all be beneficial. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Awaiting reply, recommendation and feedback and will be pleased > to > >>>>>>>> answer > >>>>>>>>>> any questions. > >>>>>>>>> Please review the Incubator website. There are instructions > >>>>>>>>> about the process for Proposals. > >>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > >>>>>>>>> In the top-left see the link to the "Proposal Guide". > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -David > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye > >>>>>>>>>> Abstract > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component > >> oriented, > >>>>>>>> ajax > >>>>>>>>>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be > viewed > >>>> as > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been > >>>>>>>> designed > >>>>>>>>>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able > >> to > >>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the > >>>> framework > >>>>>>>>>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui > and > >>>> use > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> components and features via java. The integration of the > >> javascript > >>>>>>>>>> libraries need to be easy and natural. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their > >>>> components > >>>>>>>>>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt > >> that > >>>> is > >>>>>>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive. > >>>>>>>>>> Proposal > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the > >>>>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>> goals in mind > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Fully object oriented > >>>>>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Simple API that is very close to html itself > >>>>>>>>>> We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and > javascripts > >>>>>> event > >>>>>>>>>> model. I believe that this would help web developers easily > >>>>>>>> visualize > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> rendering when reading source code. > >>>>>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Write a full application with only java > >>>>>>>>>> 4. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> No need for compiler to convert to javascript like > >> gwt.Javascript > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> rendered at runtime. > >>>>>>>>>> 5. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The same API can be used to make an software that is server > >>>> centric > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his > >>>>>>>>> application > >>>>>>>>>> server centric and part of his application client centric. He > >> can > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> course > >>>>>>>>>> choose to make the whole application client centric or server > >>>>>>>> centric > >>>>>>>>>> depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API. > >>>>>>>>>> 6. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Low memory footprint > >>>>>>>>>> 7. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in > a > >>>>>>>> single > >>>>>>>>>> jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well > >>>>>>>>>> 8. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Same API used to create custom components. No need to > external > >>>> set > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> API or specific programming technique to create custom > >>>> components. > >>>>>>>>> Creating > >>>>>>>>>> a custom components should be done only the same way as > writing > >>>> an > >>>>>>>>>> application. > >>>>>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> No need for javascript to create custom components. > >>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Although there is no need for javascript to create an > >>>> application, > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>> should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and > >> use > >>>>>>>>> them in > >>>>>>>>>> java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just > >> like > >>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>> do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that > javascript > >>>>>>>>> library > >>>>>>>>>> authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to > >>>> provide a > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The > author > >>>> of > >>>>>>>>> flexgrid > >>>>>>>>>> should should find it easy to create a castafiore component > >> thus > >>>>>>>>> making his > >>>>>>>>>> library usable directly in java. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for > javascript > >>>>>>>>>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and > >>>>>>>> distribute > >>>>>>>>>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able > to > >>>>>>>>>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very > >> convenient > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, > >> and > >>>>>>>> using > >>>>>>>>>> the library, components and feature right away in their web > >>>>>> application > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very > >>>>>>>>> lightweight > >>>>>>>>>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java > >>>> developer > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to > >> just > >>>>>>>> drop > >>>>>>>>>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it > >>>> right > >>>>>>>>> away. > >>>>>>>>>> Very practical.* > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and > >>>>>>>> efficiently > >>>>>>>>>> only when needed. > >>>>>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API > >> user > >>>>>>>> wish > >>>>>>>>>> so. > >>>>>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an > >>>>>>>> application > >>>>>>>>>> created with the framework can be used in an already created > >>>> page. > >>>>>>>>> This > >>>>>>>>>> allows API developer to use the framework only for very > >> specific > >>>>>>>>> purposes > >>>>>>>>>> like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time > using > >>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>> web > >>>>>>>>>> framework like struts for the other sections of the > >> application. > >>>>>>>>>> 4. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Although a whole application can be created using pure java, > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> framework should be able to integrate templates. > >>>>>>>>>> 5. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and > >>>>>>>> presentation. > >>>>>>>>>> Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html > >>>> template, > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the > >>>>>> template. > >>>>>>>>>> 6. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he > is > >>>>>> able > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template > >>>> engine. > >>>>>>>>>> 7. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The API user should be able to easily use any template engine > >> he > >>>>>>>>> wishes > >>>>>>>>>> easily and naturally. > >>>>>>>>>> 8. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. > API > >>>>>> user > >>>>>>>>>> should be able to write events in java that starts executing > on > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue > >>>>>>>>> executing on > >>>>>>>>>> the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a > button > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>> starts > >>>>>>>>>> by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters > >> and > >>>>>>>>> execute > >>>>>>>>>> codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter > >> from > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>>>> to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This > >>>> technique > >>>>>>>>> if used > >>>>>>>>>> skillfully helps to create very smooth application that > >>>> constantly > >>>>>>>>>> communicates with the server without any flicker > >>>>>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Support for websocket when the browser supports it. > >>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Support for HTML5 > >>>>>>>>>> 11. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Same API to write SVG applications. > >>>>>>>>>> 12. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Same API to write html5 canva application. > >>>>>>>>>> 13. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Support for browser back button > >>>>>>>>>> 14. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Crawlable by google crawler > >>>>>>>>>> 15. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of > >>>>>>>> re-usable > >>>>>>>>>> components > >>>>>>>>>> 16. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Handle browser quirks > >>>>>>>>>> 17. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Built in validation > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Background > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back > >> 3years > >>>>>> ago > >>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in > >>>> production. A > >>>>>>>>>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of > applications > >>>> like > >>>>>>>>>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization > >> management > >>>>>>>>> system > >>>>>>>>>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many > >>>> websites > >>>>>>>>>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce > website > >>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>> also created using the framework. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to > >> build > >>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> community and see it strive > >>>>>>>>>> Rationale > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that > >>>>>> address > >>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web > >>>>>>>> applications > >>>>>>>>>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and > css > >>>> and > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also > the > >>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and > >>>> client > >>>>>>>>>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made > >>>>>> client > >>>>>>>>>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole > >> application > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole > >>>>>> application > >>>>>>>>>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page > >> oriented > >>>>>>>>>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time > implement > >>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>> very specific parts using the framework. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Today many javascript library providers and making their > libraries > >>>>>>>>>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components > >> with > >>>>>> GWT > >>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and > >> stabilize. > >>>>>>>> Not > >>>>>>>>>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively > >> client > >>>>>>>>>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web > >>>>>>>> services. > >>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript > >>>>>>>>> libraries > >>>>>>>>>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize > >>>> components > >>>>>>>>> since > >>>>>>>>>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an > excellent > >>>>>>>>>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer > >>>> over > >>>>>>>>>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which > helps > >> to > >>>>>>>>> write > >>>>>>>>>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact > >> with > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very > >>>> smooth > >>>>>>>>>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the > >>>> server > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> progressively render new components. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML > 5 > >>>> api > >>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure > >>>> java. > >>>>>>>>> This > >>>>>>>>>> is pretty exciting. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js > >>>>>>>> libraries > >>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature > js > >>>>>>>>> libraries > >>>>>>>>>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily > >>>>>>>>>> Current Status > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being > >> used > >>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The > >>>>>> javadocs > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many > >> components > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create > >>>> more > >>>>>>>>>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of > every > >>>>>>>>>> programmer. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can > >>>>>> publish > >>>>>>>>>> their custom components together with their license and demo > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF > and > >>>> host > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to > >> create > >>>>>>>>> custom > >>>>>>>>>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to > >>>>>> download > >>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript > library > >>>>>>>>> authors > >>>>>>>>>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, > we > >>>> need > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> stabilize and increase security level on the application. > >>>>>>>>>> Meritocracy > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our > intent > >>>> to > >>>>>>>>> build > >>>>>>>>>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will > conduct > >>>>>>>> itself > >>>>>>>>>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of > >> accepting > >>>>>>>>>> contributions. > >>>>>>>>>> Community > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within > >> Archnet > >>>>>>>> Ltd > >>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and > >>>> build > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to > provide > >>>> all > >>>>>>>>>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help > >>>>>>>> anybody > >>>>>>>>>> interested in contributing on the project. > >>>>>>>>>> Core Developers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye > >>>>>>>>>> Alignment > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, > given > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>> goal > >>>>>>>>>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow > and > >>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>>>>> the software. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on > >> apache-tomcat > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7 > >>>>>>>>>> Known Risks Orphaned Products > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There is currently one single developer for this project. > However, > >>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order > to > >>>>>>>>> create a > >>>>>>>>>> community in order make the project less dependent on only > >> myself. I > >>>>>>>> also > >>>>>>>>>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and > >> documentation > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> help those interested to get started with the project. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give > >>>> clear > >>>>>>>>>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody > >>>> modify, > >>>>>>>>>> enhance it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my > >> company > >>>>>>>>>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in > >> Mauritius. > >>>>>>>>>> Inexperience with Open Source > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has > >> never > >>>>>>>>>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to > do > >>>> so. > >>>>>>>>>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I > >>>> believe > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache > >>>> Incubator > >>>>>>>>>> guidelines. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Homogenous Developers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. > This > >>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. > In > >>>>>>>> order > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> be able to attract developers from various countries and > >> companies. > >>>> As > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide > everything > >>>>>>>>> required > >>>>>>>>>> to help get started with contributing on this project. > >>>>>>>>>> Reliance on Salaried Developers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my > >>>>>>>> company, > >>>>>>>>>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for > >> this > >>>>>>>>>> project. > >>>>>>>>>> Relationships with Other Apache Products > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and > tested > >>>> on > >>>>>>>>>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses > >>>>>>>>> exclusively > >>>>>>>>>> the implementation provided by apache 7 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no > >>>> doubts > >>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is > primarily > >> to > >>>>>>>> give > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an > >>>>>>>>> established > >>>>>>>>>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale > and > >>>>>>>>>> Alignment sections. > >>>>>>>>>> Documentation > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon > >>>>>>>>>> Initial Source > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework > >>>>>>>>>> Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> All the codes are available online on github. > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is > very > >>>>>> easy > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the > >>>> ASF. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> External Dependencies > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. > >> They > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>> Apache compatible. > >>>>>>>>>> Cryptography > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Not applicable. > >>>>>>>>>> Required Resources Mailing Lists > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore-private for private PMC discussions > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore-dev > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore-commits > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore-user > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> castafiore-issues > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Subversion Directory > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git:// > >>>>>>>>>> git.apache.org/castafiore > >>>>>>>>>> Issue Tracking > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> JIRA Castafiore > >>>>>>>>>> Initial Committers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Affiliations > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Archnetltd > >>>>>>>>>> Interested Parties > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sponsoring Entity > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 30 August 2013 11:55, Kureem Rossaye <kur...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 30 August 2013 10:26, Andy Van Den Heuvel < > >>>>>>>>> andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message > >> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com) > >> Add > >>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup rule< > >> > https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Ftoken%3DLK4DF6Zs01UeB4%252FoCwofDbHomqBqXAUD6TYuhBUJ3RV5HDPOXTN21VCBDkxuVKdfcsP4aI9%252FpEMWuRYoPDtVj5VYCyM4i8diwx5Q3T%252FhNHxI9iYGKhU9WVpH4O5sAWILuHv26s4Avib72hSHpe7Ymw%253D%253D%26key%3DurjvzkAYjBX6HETnLJA7bQnJ4%252BG5NKGFYaSvtHdDjBs%253D&tc_serial=15008921599&tc_rand=329277911&utm_source=stf&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADD&utm_content=001 > >>>>>>>>> | > >>>>>>>>> More > >>>>>>>>>>>> info< > >> > http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc_serial=15008921599&tc_rand=329277911&utm_source=stf&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADD&utm_content=001 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kureem, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's best to copy your proposal here, so people can > see > >>>> what > >>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>> are exactly trying to solve. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Kureem Rossaye < > >> kur...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am Kureem Rossaye. I have create a web framework which is > >>>>>>>> already > >>>>>>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>>>>>>> used in production. Now I would like to give the framework > >>>>>>>>> opensource > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of course the most natural place to start is Apache. I have > >>>>>>>> already > >>>>>>>>>>>> written > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a proposal to submit to the incubation. However, I have the > >>>>>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If I am not mistaken I need to hire a champion. Could you > >>>>>>>> please > >>>>>>>>>>>> help me > >>>>>>>>>>>>> how to do this > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. How I submit the proposal? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Managing Director > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ArchNet ltd > >>>>>>>>>>>>> R. 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