Hi Shreepadma,

I am withdrawing my -1 as this has been resolved.

Please note, I believe this name will ask for trouble, esp with "getsentry.com". I also believe you should discuss this in your project if you really want to take on the risk of this name prior graduation.

Thanks,
Christian

On 24 Sep 2013, at 0:30, Shreepadma Venugopalan wrote:

Hi Christain,

Name search JIRA for Sentry has been resolved. Are you OK with changing
your vote?

Cheers,
Shreepadma


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:



Shreepadma Venugopalan schrieb:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
Shreepadma Venugopalan schrieb:
Per this document: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html,
its
required to start the name search process before we release any
packages.
It doesn't mention the name has to be cleared before a release.
OK, maybe it's no phrased well. But surely you understand why the name
must be cleared before any package is released?


Well, the way the rule reads today is the search process has to start
before a release can happen. If the name has to be cleared before a
release, it needs to be explicitly stated that way.

On the end of the document one can read:

"The V.P. Branding will finally approve your request.

Important: you must wait until your trademark has been approved. There
is no lazy consensus.

Once the name is approved, you can resolve the JIRA issue and work with
your new trademark. Incubator Podlings: please don't forget to update
your Incubator status page.
"

It says, you can only work with your trademark when VP has approved the
mark. For me this includes a release.

You maybe can guess that it can cause trouble when you work with a brand
with has not checked. Only recently we had to rename a subproject of
project because the brand was not checked accordingly.

We can either discuss about grammar or spelling issues, which this
document surely has (they are mostly my fault). Or we can simply try to
understand what problems it solves and act like that.

For me trademarks clearance are as important as a clean IP. If I were
you, I would keep this vote running, but make the outcome pending to the
response.

Now, as Jira is available to me again I can see there a couple of
(software) projects using the name Sentry already. Like for example:
getsentry.com

Given the high number of other which use the name (346 search results on github) I have concerns we will run into a trademark conflict here and
insist you wait until trademarks@ has approved your mark.

+ cc Trademarks

Cheers
Christain







We have already started a name search JIRA for Apache Sentry. Here's
the
name search JIRA for Apache Sentry:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-38
OK, then lets wait until this has been closed.

The project status page
(http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/sentry.html<
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sentry.html>)
has
also been updated to reflect it.
I can't see a note. Maybe its not yet published?

I think the voting can continue on this RC.
I disagree. First clear the name, then release.

Anyway I will propose a change on the process document to make the
intention more clear.

Cheers


Cheers.
Shreepadma


Thanks.
Shreepadma


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
-1 (binding).

As per this document:
http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/sentry.html<
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sentry.html>
the trademark process has not been resolved.

It is required to clear the name before a product is published:
http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
Thanks!




On 22 Sep 2013, at 7:02, Shreepadma Venugopalan wrote:

This is the first incubator release of Apache Sentry, version
1.2.0-incubating.

It fixes the following issues: http://s.apache.org/VlU

Source files : http://people.apache.org/~**shreepadma/sentry-1.2.0/<
http://people.apache.org/~shreepadma/sentry-1.2.0/>
Tag to be voted on (rc0):
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/**repos/asf/incubator-sentry/**
repo?p=incubator-sentry.git;a=**log;h=refs/tags/release-1.2.0-**rc0<

https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-sentry/repo?p=incubator-sentry.git;a=log;h=refs/tags/release-1.2.0-rc0
Sentry's KEYS containing the PGP key we used to sign the release:
https://people.apache.org/**keys/group/sentry.asc<
https://people.apache.org/keys/group/sentry.asc>
Note that this is a source only release and we are voting on the
source
(tag).

A vote on releasing this package has already passed in Apache Sentry PPMC[1] including +1 votes from our IPMC mentors (Patrick Hunt and
Arvind
Prabhakar).

Vote will be open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1 approve
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

Shreepadma

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