As one of the mentors singled out I fully appreciate your very reasonable explanation of your motives. On top of that those mentors do have thick skins.
No harm done, I'm sure. Ross Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Senior Technology Evangelist Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation On 7 November 2013 22:47, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > Certainly this is being addressed and fixed in the current 1.0.1 > > release thread... > > Indeed. > > > So why is something 2 months old such a bee in your bonnet right now? > > I chose to highlight the Allura situation because it illustrates that IPMC > release vote scarcity can strike your podling at any time regardless of how > virtuous and healthy it is. If it can happen to Allura, a podling with > fabulous contributors and outrageously qualified Mentors, it can happen to > anyone. > > I could have instead cited other lengthy release votes: VXQuery (over a > month > now and still waiting), ODF Toolkit (20 days), Droids (probably the > all-time > record holder), Bloodhound (so frustrating that Brane coded up the voting > monitor), ManifoldCF... but none of those podlings boasted Allura's > all-star > Mentor lineup. > > The point was to pick a podling with Mentors whose dedication to the ASF > was > unassailable ("AWOL Mentors" don't attend Board meetings!) because then > nobody > could blame the delay on insufficient Mentor dedication. I don't think > it's a > bad thing that podling core developers are inherently more invested in > their > projects than Mentors -- it's just a fact of life that we ought to > accommodate > ourselves to. Vote scarcity is not the fault of any one Mentor, or any > group > of Mentors -- it's just a phenomenon which is *guaranteed* to happen some > of > the time because the Incubator is structurally flawed. > > Still, because my point was awkwardly crafted, I wound up singling out the > Allura team in a negative context. I apologize for my clumsiness. > > Marvin Humphrey > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >