On 9 September 2014 06:51, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> John, > > Actually, on reading the links you provide, neither provides solid guidance > about the issue in question. The second link comes closest where it says > that projects typically use one of three different methods. How does this > document your strong preference for a single one of these alternatives? > If we really have a strong preference or even a mandatory way of doing this, then it should be clearly stated and not something different people interpret differently. I see https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/xyz as an elegant way of doing it, let me put it differently if a project prefer to it differently it might not be elegant enough (or well documented). I think we really need to be careful not to make rules just because we can. Giving projects freedom where possible should be our goal. just my opinion. rgds jan i. > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Ted, > > > > Do you mean more than here: > > > > [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html > > [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#host-rc > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Is the new process documented somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 7 September 2014 20:31, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > As I understand the release guidelines, one is not allowed to put > > > > something > > > > > on dist.apache.org until after a release vote by the Incubator PMC > > > > approves > > > > > that release: > > > > > > > > > > "Only formally-approved releases may be distributed from the main > > > > > directories" [1] > > > > > > > > > > For this candidate, as with our last two releases, we followed this > > > piece > > > > > of information: > > > > > > > > > > "It is traditional that release managers use their Apache home > space > > to > > > > > make available release candidates. " [1] > > > > > > > > Historic tradition; that was before svnpubsub. > > > > > > > > Note that the DEV tree at > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/xyz > > > > > > > > is NOT published to www.apache.org/dist > > > > > > > > The svnpubsub process takes releases from the RELEASE tree at > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/xyz > > > > > > > > Since they have the same parent, one can use svn move (or svnmucc) to > > > > transfer the files from dev to release area. > > > > This provides traceability (assuming the the release vote includes > the > > > > SVN revision number) > > > > > > > > > To date, we only push to dist.apache.org once we have received > > > approval > > > > > here. Can you point me to the guidelines that lead you to believe > > that > > > > > this must be staged on dist.apache.org? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jacques > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-incubator-release-vote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM, John D. Ament < > > john.d.am...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Sorry, I have to vote -1 > > > > >> > > > > >> The release is not staged in the proper place (e.g. > > > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ ) > > > > >> > > > > >> If this gets moved, I can vote +1 > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Jacques Nadeau < > jacq...@apache.org > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi John, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks for the feedback. I'd like to respond to each of your > > > > concerns: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>Your NOTICE file is missing MIT license. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The notice file states: "Please see LICENSE for additional > > > copyright > > > > and > > > > >> > licensing information." The LICENSE file contains the MIT > license. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>Your source file includes binaries in the sample-data > directory. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > These are small sample data files that are used to do various > unit > > > > tests. > > > > >> > They have been approved on both of our previous releases > because > > of > > > > >> their > > > > >> > small size (<24k combined) and the fact that they are not source > > > code. > > > > >> > These are raw data files that happen to be binary in nature but > > are > > > > for > > > > >> > all purposes the same as example json files we include for > testing > > > > >> > purposes. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ideally, your directory name should match the release version > > > > >> (0.5.0.rc2 > > > > >> > vs 0.5.0) > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The name of the release candidate directory is due to the nature > > of > > > > the > > > > >> > Apache voting process. Each time we have a release candidate in > > the > > > > >> > community, we hold a vote. We always maintain past release > > > > candidates so > > > > >> > that we can refer back to them. All artifacts in the release > > > > candidate > > > > >> > hold the release/public names and will ultimately be hosted on > the > > > > Apache > > > > >> > distribution servers at the appropriately named release > directory. > > > > For > > > > >> > historical perspective on this, see the following that has been > > our > > > > >> > strategy thus far: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > our m1 release: > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1 (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc2 > > (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc3 > > (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc4 > > > > (approved) > > > > >> --> > > > > >> > and distributed as > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/drill/drill-1.0.0-m1-incubating/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > our 0.4.0 release: > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.4.0.rc0 (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.4.0.rc1 > > (approved) > > > > --> > > > > >> > distributed as > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/drill/drill-0.4.0-incubating/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > our 0.5.0 release: > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc0 (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc1 (fail) > > > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc2 > > (pending) > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > As you can see, the rc numbers are only used during the voting > > > > process. > > > > >> > Once we get approval from the incubator, we drop the rc so that > > > > external > > > > >> > consumers aren't confused by failed released candidates. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Hopefully this satisfies your concerns and you can vote +1 for > our > > > > >> release. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > thanks again for your feedback, > > > > >> > Jacques > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:09 AM, John D. Ament < > > > john.d.am...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Your NOTICE file is missing MIT license. > > > > >> > > Your source file includes binaries in the sample-data > directory. > > > > >> > > Ideally, your directory name should match the release version > > > > >> (0.5.0.rc2 > > > > >> > vs > > > > >> > > 0.5.0) > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > John > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Jacques Nadeau < > > > jacq...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > It is my pleasure to present the Apache Drill > 0.5.0-incubating > > > > >> release > > > > >> > to > > > > >> > > > the general incubator list for a vote. This set of > artifacts > > > have > > > > >> > passed > > > > >> > > > our drill-dev vote and incorporate a number of improvements > > with > > > > over > > > > >> > 100 > > > > >> > > > JIRAs closed in the last month. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > As part of this release, we looked to address the feedback > in > > > our > > > > >> > > previous > > > > >> > > > release from the general list. This included enhancing our > > > > license > > > > >> and > > > > >> > > > notice files as well as clearly delineating binary > > dependencies > > > > that > > > > >> > are > > > > >> > > > distributed as part of our convenience binary. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > The vote thread can be found here: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201409.mbox/%3CCAKa9qD=L9KLQbNe2BKXKn=H34r0=3boobbd_3uhzeojc9k8...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > The vote passed with: > > > > >> > > > +5 binding > > > > >> > > > +6 non-binding > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > You can find the artifacts for the release at this location: > > > > >> > > > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc2/ > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > I look forward to your feedback. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > > > > >> > > > Jacques > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
