On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hi Till, > > We should probably move this discussion on to the > d...@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org list. > > In short, we shouldn’t have situations in which there are contributors > who contributions are “shepherded in” by Apache AsterixDB Incubating > PPMC members whose contributions have an indirect middle man at > UCI. All development on ASF projects must happen at the ASF. > > We went to great lengths to get the Github workflow integrated into > our mailing lists for provenance and for foundational tracking > perspective and ultimately so that we can tell people who use Apache > software that it’s from a plan and provenance they can trust. Infra > did a lot of work to make sure contributions have at least an email > address that flows through to the mailing list. > > Here in the Gerrit situation, it could be similar to Github I suppose > if we make sure all communication from that Gerrit instance is > mirror’ed to the list (dev@, or some similar list, probably issues@, > or something that folks can choose to subscribe to). > > Ideally we need ICLAs on file for anything bigger than smallish > contributions that have clear mailing list provenance. So, one thing > you guys are doing is potentially circumventing that review from > an ASF perspective without this mailing list mirror’ing at the very > least. > > If ASF infra is willing to throw up a Gerrit instance, that’s the > most ideal situation. If they are not there is precedence for what > you guys are doing ( e.g., with Github; and also with build farm > machines, e.g., such as those contributed by Y! initially when > Hadoop started, etc.) But this is our core product; code, and it’s > not something to be taken lightly especially in light of things > “not happening at the ASF” and for provenance purposes. It’s nice > that this is going on at UCI, and we appreciate their use of > resources, however, ASF projects develop and “occur” at the ASF. > Period. > > Here are the immediate actions: > > 1. Mirror all UCI Gerrit to Apache AsterixDB mailing list (discussed > in dev@asterixdb.i.a.o and agreed upon by the PPMC within 24-48 > hours) 2. Work with ASF infra (David Nalley is the VP of infra, so > you have his attention here) to see if they are willing to run a > Gerrit instance. It’s my understanding David, that the AsterixDB > folks have a few lingering issues here where they have not heard > back so if you could reply on those I’d appreciate it.
I just replied to a flurry of emails, but I have no doubt I've missed things. Please don't hesitate to call out if I still haven't answered a question. dev@asterixdb will work well. --David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
