Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in the request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in.
Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider > taking it out. > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community > has plans to deviate. > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably > would have stuck with the defaults. > > -Taylor > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying > attention > > to what they did. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I agree. > >> > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a > set > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > >> > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans > to > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > >> > >> Just something to consider. > >> > >> -Taylor > >> > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > >>> business in the Apache Way. > >>> > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > >>> > >>> Julian > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msam...@ebay.com> > wrote: > >>>> +1 > >>>> > >>>>> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuth...@ebay.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during > the > >>>>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and > >>>>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > >>>>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and > >>>>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the > past > >> 6 > >>>>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin > >>>>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including > Strata+Hadoop > >>>>>>> World > >>>>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > >>>>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > >> Conference > >>>>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > >>>>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many > >> talks > >>>>>>> around the world. > >>>>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per > >> month > >>>>>>> now. > >>>>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > >>>>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please > >> find > >>>>>>> below > >>>>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > >>>>>>> * discussion on dev list [1] > >>>>>>> * vote thread [2] > >>>>>>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > >>>>>>> * incubation status [4] > >>>>>>> * proposed resolution below > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and > if > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > >>>>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page > >> and > >>>>>>> others during the next couple of days. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > >>>>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > >>>>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > >>>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > >>>>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > >>>>>>> =============================== > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > >>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > >>>>>>> public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", > >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is > >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source > >>>>>>> software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; > >>>>>>> and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and > >>>>>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at > >>>>>>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for > >>>>>>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility > >>>>>>> of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han > >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve > >>>>>>> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board > of > >>>>>>> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, > >>>>>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until > >>>>>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby > >>>>>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the > >>>>>>> Kylin Project; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby > >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > >>>>>>> PMC are hereafter discharged. > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
