Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to proceed more smoothly.
I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and the podling has been functioning well. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in the > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider > > taking it out. > > > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community > > has plans to deviate. > > > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably > > would have stuck with the defaults. > > > > -Taylor > > > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying > > attention > > > to what they did. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I agree. > > >> > > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a > > set > > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > > >> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and > has > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project > plans > > to > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > > >> > > >> Just something to consider. > > >> > > >> -Taylor > > >> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to > graduate. > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > > >>> business in the Apache Way. > > >>> > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > > >>> > > >>> Julian > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msam...@ebay.com> > > wrote: > > >>>> +1 > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuth...@ebay.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > > >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during > > the > > >>>>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and > > >>>>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added > 6 > > >>>>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and > > >>>>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the > > past > > >> 6 > > >>>>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin > > >>>>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including > > Strata+Hadoop > > >>>>>>> World > > >>>>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > > >>>>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > > >> Conference > > >>>>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > > >>>>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many > > >> talks > > >>>>>>> around the world. > > >>>>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per > > >> month > > >>>>>>> now. > > >>>>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > > >>>>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please > > >> find > > >>>>>>> below > > >>>>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > > >>>>>>> * discussion on dev list [1] > > >>>>>>> * vote thread [2] > > >>>>>>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > > >>>>>>> * incubation status [4] > > >>>>>>> * proposed resolution below > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project > and > > if > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > > >>>>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status > page > > >> and > > >>>>>>> others during the next couple of days. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > > >>>>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > > >>>>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > > >>>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > > >>>>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > > >>>>>>> =============================== > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > >>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > >>>>>>> public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", > > >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is > > >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source > > >>>>>>> software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; > > >>>>>>> and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and > > >>>>>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve > at > > >>>>>>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for > > >>>>>>> management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility > > >>>>>>> of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han > > >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to > serve > > >>>>>>> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board > > of > > >>>>>>> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, > > >>>>>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or > until > > >>>>>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and > hereby > > >>>>>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in > the > > >>>>>>> Kylin Project; and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and > hereby > > >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the > Apache > > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache > > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > >>>>>>> PMC are hereafter discharged. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > -- Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
