On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:14 PM Mike Jumper <mike.jum...@guac-dev.org>
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:03 AM Mike Jumper <mike.jum...@guac-dev.org>
> > wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Thanks, John. We definitely won't move forward with altering the
> presence
> > > of the ASF headers until we get a ruling from legal one way or the
> other.
> > > I'm equally worried that simply removing them would be just as wrong,
> due
> > > to the way GNU Autotools pulls in chunks of build file source verbatim.
> > >
> > > What about your other feedback regarding the draft release notes +
> > > downloads?
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution.html#unreleased
> >
> > I feel you violate this, but since its unlinked I'm OK with sayings just
> > there.  For the next release, prep the page, but don't publish it.
> >
>
> Can you clarify how this is violated?
>
> With the release artifacts themselves uploaded to staging dist prior
> to being promoted to release dist, Maven artifacts uploaded to a
> staging repository prior to being promoted to the release repo, etc.,
> I'm not seeing why uploading the release notes to a staging section of
> the website would be a violation of policy.
>
> Part of the idea behind staging the release notes in this way was to
> ensure that promoting an RC to release involves only updating
> metadata, with all tangible release-related work being strictly part
> of each RC. If the release notes cannot be uploaded until the release
> is going out, then that'll be a part of the system that doesn't get
> exercised during the RC process.
>
>
Just to be 100% clear, I'm talking about this page:
http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/releases/0.9.12-incubating/

Here are the items this page violates (from my POV):

- You're linking to dist.apache.org
- There's nothing stating that these files are only for the dev community
(there is a note saying its not released yet)
- Anyone who has this link can use the prebuilt software.

Effectively, everything listed on
http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution.html#unreleased is violated.


> - Mike
>
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