Hi -

I am adding the Pulsar Dev list so that podling can be certainly aware. (I know 
that there are BookKeeper dev involved in Pulsar.

Please drop general@ off for any further discussions from the Pulsar side.

Regards,
Dave

> On Jun 8, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ( /cc bookkeeper dev@ and incubator general@ for awareness )
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There was a joint discussion between BookKeeper PMC and DistributedLog PPMC
> about moving the development of DistributedLog as part of Apache
> BookKeeper. The reasons behind it are:
> 
> First, DistributedLog is born as an extension to BookKeeper, to offer
> continuous log streams as the service. The ledger API in bookkeeper is a
> lower level API and has learning curves, while the log stream API in
> distributedlog is a higher level API that simplifies the usage. The
> combination of ledger API and stream API would offer a better
> developer/user experience for applications.
> 
> Secondly, using ledgers to build continuous (re-openable) log stream is a
> very common pattern for BookKeeper use cases. We did this for HDFS namenode
> journal, for Hedwig, for DistributedLog, and for Pulsar. The same pattern
> has been implemented again and again. Merge DistributedLog (also
> ManagedLedger in Pulsar) with BookKeeper will consolidate all the
> development efforts around this common 'log stream' pattern.
> 
> Thirdly, the 'log' stream abstraction is a good abstraction for both
> messaging and streaming. Internally at BookKeeper, there are a few places
> that can use such 'messaging' facility to improve bookkeeper itself. the
> log stream in DistributedLog can be used internally at bookkeeper for
> streaming changes as well.
> 
> We choose merging DistributedLog as subproject rather than modules. It is a
> softer starting point to avoid disrupting the folks who are depending on
> the ledger api alone. The BookKeeper PMC and DistributedLog PPMC has
> achieved initial consensus on this merge. There is an official VOTE ongoing
> in bookkeeper PMC. We'd like to bring this to the distributedlog community
> for a community vote following the guidelines here
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject>.
> 
> Please vote +1 if in favor of merging DistributedLog to BookKeeper, and -1
> if not. The vote will be open until Tuesday 13rd June, 18:00 PST.
> 
> - Sijie

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