On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:04 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> For your specific cases, if all you want is to remove red text:
>
> - for :sga: enter the date in YYYY-MM-DD format of when the ASF Secretary
> acknowledged your SGA.  Based on the records I have its 2016-03-15
> - For the :asfCopyright: and :distributionRights: attributes, I would use
> 2017-01-20 as that's the day of the results of 2.8 which was the first
> release to have no issues during review.
>
> But please do continue to provide input, want to make sure we're building
> something useful, not a pain.

Suggestion: let's start talking about how we should make the roster
page prompt for, validate, and apply any changes.

As in, for every field that is editable, there should be a way to
bring up an HTML form.  That form should contain explanatory text, and
perform validations.  Submitting that form should update the
appropriate YAML file in svn, and potentially notify various lists of
the change.

If people can provide the information above for a single field, I can
implement that change for the first field and people can use that as
an example to do the same for other fields.

> HTH,
>
> John

- Sam Ruby

> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:52 PM Jim Apple <jbap...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. The message to podlings@ said "If you're not sure what
>> to fill out, feel free to reach out."
>>
>> It sounds like there is no set way yet to fill it out.
>>
>> What can I do to get the bolded, red, inaccurate scare messages off of
>> our whimsy page?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:30 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Good points Dave.  To be honest, since this is a prototype I don't have
>> > answers any more than "If you think it should do that, we can make it do
>> > that"
>> >
>> > What I did have in mind:
>> >
>> > ---
>> > :issueTracker: jira|github|bugzilla
>> > :wiki: if using confluence, their space key
>> > :jira: if using jira, their issue key (though I suppose this can be
>> > multiple)
>> > :proposal: link to the proposal page.
>> > :asfCopyright: the date that we confirmed ASF copyright headers on the
>> > source code (e.g. the first time a source release passed without any
>> issues)
>> > :distributionRights: the date that we confirmed the resulting binary
>> > satisfied our release policies (e.g. the first time a release included a
>> > binary without any issues)
>> > :ipClearance: a link to the IP Clearance page for this podling.  I guess
>> > this can be multiple?
>> > :sga: date in which a SGA was received
>> > :website: http://impala.incubator.apache.org
>> > :graduationDate: to be filled in when the podling graduates
>> > :resolution: tlp|subproject , if subproject the TLP should be in here
>> > somehwere.  We may want to track as "sponsor."
>> >
>> > I can draft this up on a wiki page to gain more input.  What do you think
>> > about using https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PodlingStatusBrainstorm to
>> > work through it?  I had a few more questions in line.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:09 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi John -
>> >>
>> >> These are excellent questions. I see each of these as being tuples of
>> >> various kinds.
>> >>
>> >> For example :sga: could have multiple grants each of which has a date
>> and
>> >> a file name to refer to in the foundation records.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > We don't usually expose the file name to people outside members, so I'm
>> not
>> > sure this would be useful.  Multiple dates are also not common.
>> >
>> >
>> >> The path to the source repository is missing completely.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Which source repository?  The podlings?  I have a prototype for gitbox
>> > podlings and think I can make it work for ASF git as well.  For SVN, we
>> can
>> > assume default or have a list of values.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Some of these items could be transitory. For example distributionRights
>> >> may be confirmed but then something is added which negates those rights
>> >> until the issue is cleared up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > +1
>> >
>> >
>> >> I wonder if it makes sense to provide links to email threads and/or Wiki
>> >> pages with the details?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> > On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:22 AM, Jim Apple <jbap...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > What format of data is expected in the fields? Impala's new status
>> >> > page SVN config file
>> >> > <
>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/impala.yml
>> >> >
>> >> > is:
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > :issueTracker: jira
>> >> > :wiki: IMPALA
>> >> > :jira: IMPALA
>> >> > :proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ImpalaProposal
>> >> > :asfCopyright:
>> >> > :distributionRights:
>> >> > :ipClearance:
>> >> > :sga:
>> >> > :website: http://impala.incubator.apache.org
>> >> > :graduationDate:
>> >> > :resolution:
>> >> >
>> >> > I do not know how to fill out asfCopyright, distributionRights,
>> >> > ipClearance, or sga. Note that I believe I understand what these
>> >> > things ARE, I just don't know how to word them -- "asfCopyright: OK"?
>> >> >
>> >> > I also don't know which one(s) correspond to the bold red "No Release
>> >> > Yet" on <https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/impala>. FWIW, Impala
>> >> > has had a couple of ASF releases.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We're piloting a new format for the podling status pages.
>> Specifically,
>> >> >> the current status page leaves a lot to be desired - it's basically
>> >> crafted
>> >> >> html, there's no structure and its hard to find missing items.  The
>> end
>> >> >> goal is to have a web form editable in Whimsy, but until we get more
>> >> input
>> >> >> on what the content looks like I don't want to make changes like
>> that.
>> >> I'm
>> >> >> asking at this point for podlings to take a look at the status
>> output,
>> >> >> potentially update their own content, and see if they like the
>> output.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you navigate to https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/
>> >> (authentication
>> >> >> is via your ASF committer username/password) and find your podling,
>> >> you'll
>> >> >> see your current roster as well as your current status information.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The status pages can be found in SVN at this directory
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Some more information can be found at
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9504139b5ee9880fdb278f86757803c711fbc962e1934ef2c01a8ed0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you're not sure what to fill out, feel free to reach out.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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