2017-12-06 18:14 GMT+01:00 Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>:
> On 12/06/2017 06:10 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>> As explained in the original GIT at ASF threads many years ago: you cannot 
>> easily get rid of a branch at ASF.
>> Even if we force-push a delete it will _not_ get propagated downstream and 
>> would cause clashes if a release needs to be re-rolled.
>
> Move to gitbox, problem solved?

Doesn't change anything AFAIK since it is the exact same archi no?

> It strikes me as highly irregular that you are voting on something with
> no guaranteed provenance in place. Perhaps this is based on
> misinformation? I'd be inclined to vote -1 here, but I just can't be
> bothered.

No guarantee is quite rude since it is still mainly about trust
between asf people. Or is the issue to use github only?

>
>> That's the reason why we do NOT push the staging branch to the ASF 
>> cannonical repo. Never did for most ASF projects.
>> You can also read this up in the original GIT documentation I worked out 
>> with Infra and CouchDB.
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>>> Am 06.12.2017 um 17:36 schrieb John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>> Right, but the IPMC has general oversight and responsibilities for
>>> podlings.  Our requirements for what goes into a release are at
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#releases
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @John: depends the project. DeltaSpike, BatchEE and several others
>>>> don't and it is fine IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-12-06 17:04 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:00 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-12-06 16:41 GMT+01:00 sebb <seb...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> On 6 December 2017 at 08:08, Reinhard Sandtner <rsandt...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey incubator PMCs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Apache BatchEE community has voted and approved the proposal to
>>>>>> release Apache BatchEE 0.5-incubating.
>>>>>>>> Apache BatchEE is a JBatch implementation (JSR-352) which provides
>>>> many
>>>>>> enhancements and extensions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may find the VOTE thread here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/50c023e02cebcb61bc61aa2ea6112d366b1dba0db04c045b7c1b415b@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/batchee-dev/201712.mbox/%3c501767c2-1220-41f1-a8f9-73330969d...@apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the RESULT VOTE thread can be found here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6d05ea8439167e15d720d318c9c2845fbd134ae2967321e3b7540386@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6d05ea8439167e15d720d318c9c2845fbd134ae2967321e3b7540386@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For information about the contents of this release, see:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12314924&version=12334679
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12314924&version=12334679
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The tag is available on my github fork
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/rsandtner/incubator-batchee/tree/batchee-0.5-incubating
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/rsandtner/incubator-batchee/tree/batchee-0.5-incubating
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That does not seem right.
>>>>>>> Tags need to be permanent and 'owned' by the (P)PMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During the vote - and for git - the tags shouldnt hit git@asf to
>>>>>> ensure that they are permanent (naming convention hacks don't work so
>>>>>> using forks is the choice which has been done by several projects,
>>>>>> including BatchEE).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it helps I can push the tag on my fork (which would make it owned
>>>>>> by the PMC) but since Reihard is a committer I don't see any issue
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what we've been doing is pushing to the ASF repos and pointing to
>>>>> the specific commit hash.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Staging Repo is here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebatchee-1005 <
>>>>>>
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebatchee-1005>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is only the Maven staging area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The source must be released through the ASF mirror system,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The staging area for that is here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/batchee/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [If the vote succeeds, the files can be moved here:
>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/batchee/]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sources can be found here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebatchee-1005/org/apache/batchee/batchee/0.5-incubating/batchee-0.5-incubating-source-release.zip
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebatchee-1005/org/apache/batchee/batchee/0.5-incubating/batchee-0.5-incubating-source-release.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Release artifacts are singed with the KEY:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/blob/master/KEYS <
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/blob/master/KEYS>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The KEYS file must be under
>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/batchee/ as must the sigs and
>>>>>>> hashes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72 hours
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least 72 hours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 batchEE -> coolShipIt()
>>>>>>>> [ ] +0 don’t care
>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 do not release because…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks, lg
>>>>>>>> reini
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