Also what is the point of forcing us into this monthly reporting cycle? It
is kinda stressing me out. Is this a new thing just to harass me into
retirement.

Also I asked about this:
http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/Suggestion-for-podling-reminder-report-emails-td59035.html
. Whats up with that? I mean its so worth wild to start this close down the
podling convo like every month, but no one can go out and fix the email.



On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have been working for quite some time to desensitize people so that they
> don't have a strong emotional cost associated with different ways to leave
> incubation. That animus just gets people to avoid the right decision for
> far too long.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 10:22 Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Ah, maybe "moving to the Attic" is the phrase I was trying to avoid then
> > :). Thanks, John.
> >
> > Agreed on the software still being great and going to receive love.
> >
> > On 6/28/18 1:10 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> > > That sounds like retirement to me.  The way I've always seen it is that
> > > podlings don't fail, the people behind them simply had a change in
> > > priorities.
> > >
> > > Gossip is a great toolkit that I believe people will continue to use.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 12:44 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been trying to be patient around this, but I think this month's
> > >> incubator report must be "Gossip is going to exit incubation" (I'm not
> > >> sure what the proper verb is here; I only know that "retire" is wrong)
> > >>
> > >> We've gone through many months where the only traffic I've seen on the
> > >> mailing list are the report reminders.
> > >>
> > >> This doesn't need to be interpreted as "Gossip is a failure at the
> ASF"
> > >> or anything of the such. It just means "It's not the right time for
> > >> Gossip at the ASF incubator". By all means, we can bring it back into
> > >> incubation if we get some more community traction behind the project.
> > >>
> > >> On 6/27/18 5:41 PM, jmcl...@apache.org wrote:
> > >>> Dear podling,
> > >>>
> > >>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > >>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time
> to
> > >>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > >>>
> > >>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 18 July 2018, 10:30 am PDT.
> > >>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > >>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2
> weeks
> > >>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > >>> submission (Wed, July 04).
> > >>>
> > >>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> > >>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> > >>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the
> board
> > >>> meeting.
> > >>>
> > >>> Candidate names should not be made public before people are actually
> > >>> elected, so please do not include the names of potential committers
> or
> > >>> PPMC members in your report.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > >>>
> > >>> Submitting your Report
> > >>>
> > >>> ----------------------
> > >>>
> > >>> Your report should contain the following:
> > >>>
> > >>> *   Your project name
> > >>> *   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge
> of
> > >>>       the project or necessarily of its field
> > >>> *   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> > >>>       towards graduation.
> > >>> *   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to
> > be
> > >>>       aware of
> > >>> *   How has the community developed since the last report
> > >>> *   How has the project developed since the last report.
> > >>> *   How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > >>>
> > >>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > >>>
> > >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2018
> > >>>
> > >>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little
> before
> > >>> this page is created from a template.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mentors
> > >>> -------
> > >>>
> > >>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off
> on
> > >>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > >>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> > >>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Incubator PMC
> > >>>
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