One also has to see that NetBeans is an exceptionally big and complex podling!

For most other projects the existing process works really fine.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 01.04.2019 um 11:35 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga 
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> We have also previously already checked those files and also have the
>> sources at hand afaict.
>> So they should be perfectly fine - as they have been in older NB releases
>> (where we had the question as well).
>> 
> 
> 
> I think this is the biggest problem with the incubator -- the fact that one
> constantly needs to re-litigate decisions and agreements that have already
> been made in previous releases.
> 
> Pointing to a list of issues, or a Wiki where these items are listed, is
> clearly not a solution -- the fact that we have been making use of Apache
> Rat from the very beginning and that we have a Rat exclusions file was also
> missed, a whole thread was started to bring our intransigence to the
> attention of the world was started, etc etc. So, I don't see a solution
> here and it is the IPMC vote that -- while being immensely valuable for
> being the most detailed -- that invariable causes the most confusion and
> wasting of time in re-litigating things.
> 
> So, though I'd like to bring a solution to this, I do not have one.
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 30.03.2019 um 07:23 schrieb Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 21:43 Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Theres are the binary inclusions that seem to contain compiled code, an
>>>> ASF release should not include this:
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/com-example-testmodule-cluster.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-brokendepending.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-depending.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-depending_on_new_one_engine.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-engine-1-1.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-engine-1-2.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-engine.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-executable-permissions.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-fragment.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-independent-1-1.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-independent.nbm
>>>> B
>>>> 
>> ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/org-yourorghere-refresh_providers_test.nbm
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> To be clear, this is test data; not binary dependencies. Note the names
>> of
>>> those files. NetBeans has a module system, and those have nbm extensions.
>>> These nbms are made to test very specific things that can be wrong in
>>> modules. This would be like having tests for C/C++ linkers and object
>> files
>>> etc where you just want to validate the linking not rebuilding object
>> files
>>> for tests; rebuilding those every test run adds build time for no gain.
>>> Make sense, and Ok?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Wade
>> 
>> 
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