+1.  Happy to talk anytime.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:29 AM Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> Glad you are interested in the project, I added you to the list of
> committers in the proposal.
>
> I hope to learn more about your Web mapping use cases soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Bertil
>
>
>
>
> > On 27 Sep 2022, at 04:03, Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bertil,
> >
> > I’d be happy to contribute if you’re interested.
> >
> > - Josh
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:25 AM Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> Here is a proposal for Baremaps, a toolkit and a set of infrastructure
> >> components for creating, publishing, and operating online maps. The
> >> proposal is published on the wiki [1] and a demonstration of our base
> map
> >> is available online [2].
> >>
> >> The key challenge for Baremaps will be to create a sustainable
> community.
> >> We appreciate anyone who would be willing to support us with bug
> reports,
> >> code, mentoring or feedback.
> >>
> >> [1] -
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Baremaps+Proposal
> >> [2] - https://demo.baremaps.com/
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Bertil Chapuis
> >>
> >> ----
> >>
> >> Baremaps Proposal
> >>
> >> = Abstract =
> >> Apache Baremaps is a toolkit and a set of infrastructure components for
> >> creating, publishing, and operating online maps.
> >>
> >> = Proposal =
> >> Apache Baremaps is a toolkit and a set of infrastructure components for
> >> creating, publishing, and operating online maps. It provides a data
> >> pipeline enabling developers to build maps with different data sources.
> It
> >> offers live reload capabilities that allow cartographers to customize
> the
> >> content and the style of a map. It includes an attribution-free map
> schema
> >> and style that stimulates derived work. Finally, it provides services
> >> commonly used in online maps, such as location search and IP to
> location.
> >>
> >> == Background ==
> >> The infrastructure components required to publish and operate
> large-scale
> >> online maps are often closed-source, heterogeneous, complex, and
> expensive.
> >> For instance: the visualization of maps in Web browsers or on mobile
> >> devices requires processing and tiling large spatial datasets, such as
> >> OpenStreetMap; the location of users based on their IP addresses
> requires
> >> aggregating and merging data from network information centers; the
> ability
> >> to search in a map requires indexing features based on text and spatial
> >> attributes in different languages.
> >>
> >> == Rationale ==
> >> Web mapping infrastructure is often managed by large teams of developers
> >> (e.g., Google Maps, Apple Maps, Mapbox, etc.), which makes it hard to
> >> customize and evolve. Apache Baremaps is a Web mapping infrastructure
> for
> >> the rest of us: it enables individuals and small teams of developers to
> >> regain control over spatial data and to develop custom mapping
> experiences.
> >> As a result, Apache Baremaps facilitates innovation in niche areas where
> >> resources are limited and customization is needed (e.g., sustainable
> >> mobility, civil engineering, urban planning, environment monitoring,
> >> startups, etc.).
> >>
> >> == Initial Goals ==
> >> The primary goals are:
> >> - to release a customizable attribution-free map schema and style;
> >> - to publish a tiled world map in different formats (mvt, png, 3D Tiles
> >> Next, etc.);
> >> - to grow the community and attract new contributors;
> >> - to release additional services and components (IP to location,
> location
> >> search, etc.).
> >>
> >> == Current Status ==
> >>
> >> === Meritocracy ===
> >> Baremaps is a project initially developed by Bertil Chapuis. It has
> >> already attracted outside contributors. Therefore, the process of
> electing
> >> new committers and project management committee members should be
> natural.
> >>
> >> === Community ===
> >> The need for Web mapping infrastructure is great, hence a good potential
> >> for a diverse community mixing developers and cartographers.
> >>
> >> === Core Developers ===
> >> The contributors to Baremaps include developers from academia and
> >> industry, mainly located in Europe. The contributions include
> >> documentation, bug fixes, and new features. Most of the development and
> >> communication currently takes place on GitHub.
> >>
> >> === Alignment ===
> >> Many critical components used in the geospatial community are released
> >> under LGPL (e.g., Geotools, Geotoolkit). We are strongly aligned with
> the
> >> terms of the Apache license. Joining the geospatial community at Apache
> >> will enable us to be less reliant on components with contaminating
> >> licenses. For instance, Apache SIS seeks to become an alternative to
> >> Geotools and Geotoolkit.
> >>
> >> == Known Risks ==
> >>
> >> === Project Name ===
> >> No trademark is associated with the Baremaps name, and the project is
> >> already well referenced by search engines. The .com, .org, and .net
> domains
> >> are the property of Bertil Chapuis, who agrees to transfer them to the
> >> Apache Software Foundation unconditionally upon request.
> >>
> >> === Orphaned Products ===
> >> There is a risk of being orphaned due to the small number of committers.
> >> Even if the main contributor has no plan to leave the project, this is a
> >> problem we need to address in the future.
> >>
> >> === Inexperience with open source ===
> >> The initial committers contributed to open source projects in the past
> but
> >> have only a few experiences with the governance of open source projects
> in
> >> a Foundation such as Apache.
> >>
> >> === Length of incubation ===
> >> We expect to achieve most of the initial goals within one year. However,
> >> some other goals (e.g., growing a community sufficiently diverse and
> >> healthy to leave the incubator) are harder to estimate and may span
> over a
> >> more extended time.
> >>
> >> === Homogenous Developers ===
> >> Most current developers work for the same institution (University of
> >> Applied Sciences and Arts of Western Switzerland). We also started
> >> receiving contributions from individuals and companies (e.g.,
> Camptocamp).
> >>
> >> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> >> Baremaps started as a hobby project. The geocoder and IP to location
> >> components are the results of experiments conceived during research and
> >> educational projects. The HTTP component was part of an R&D project at
> >> camptocamp.
> >>
> >> === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
> >> Apache Baremaps relies on other Apache projects to achieve its goals.
> >> Apache SIS is used to import spatial data (e.g., Shapefile, GeoPackage,
> >> GeoJSON) in PostGIS. Apache Lucene is used for indexing text and spatial
> >> attributes. Apache Calcite may be considered as an alternative to
> PostGIS
> >> in the future.
> >>
> >> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> >> The geospatial community regularly encounters licensing problems. For
> >> instance, Mapbox recently got closed source and forked into the MapLibre
> >> project. The storage components of Apache SIS, which overlap with other
> >> projects under LGPL in terms of functionality, take time to develop. The
> >> most popular open source map schema for vector tiles is currently
> released
> >> with a CC-BY license that discourages derivative work. We are
> interested in
> >> joining the ASF because it sets a high bar for including third-party
> >> libraries. In the long term, this will benefit our contributors, our
> users,
> >> and, more generally, the geospatial community.
> >>
> >> == Documentation ==
> >> The documentation of baremaps can be found at:
> https://www.baremaps.com/
> >>
> >> == Initial Source ==
> >> The source code of baremaps can be found at:
> >> https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps
> >>
> >> The base map can be found at:
> >> https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps/tree/main/map
> >>
> >> == External Dependencies ==
> >> To our knowledge, none of the dependencies currently used in our main
> >> branch are a matter of concern (BSD, MIT, Apache).
> >>
> >> == Cryptography ==
> >> There is no cryptography required in Apache Baremaps at present time.
> >>
> >> = Required Resources =
> >>
> >> == Mailing lists ==
> >> baremaps-...@incubator.apache.org
> >> baremaps-u...@incubator.apache.org
> >> baremaps-comm...@incubator.apache.org
> >> baremaps-priv...@incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >> == Git Repositories ==
> >> We would like to transfer our current github repository to the apache
> >> organization.
> >>
> >> Source: https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps
> >>
> >> Target: https://github.com/apache/baremaps
> >>
> >> == Issue Tracking  ==
> >> We currently use GitHub to manage the issues and would also appreciate
> >> using a GitHub project.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects
> >>
> >> == Initial Committers ==
> >> Names of initial committers with affiliation and current ASF status:
> >> - Bertil Chapuis (Heig-vd), Apache Committer, id: bchapuis
> >> - Andrea Borghi (Camptocamp)
> >> - James Smith (Heig-vd)
> >> - Antoine Drabble (Heig-vd)
> >>
> >> = Sponsors =
> >>
> >> == Champion ==
> >> Bertrand Delacretaz
> >>
> >> == Mentors ==
> >> Martin Desruisseaux
> >> George Percivall
> >> Julian Hyde
> >>
> >> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> >> The Apache Incubator
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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