When I mentor a project (as I have volunteered to do for Baremaps) I usually host a Zoom meeting with the initial contributors explaining what really goes on during Incubation. I totally agree that learning the Apache Way and making releases are key activities. I usually invite other stakeholders (e.g. contributors’ managers) because people have a lot of questions, and it helps to set people’s expectations correctly early on.
Julian > On Sep 27, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io> wrote: > > I think we should call out in the proposal of initial goals is learn the > apache way how to make releases within the foundation. There is much to > learn in the incubating process. > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:22 PM Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io > <mailto:j...@joshfischer.io>> wrote: > +1. Happy to talk anytime. > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:29 AM Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com > <mailto:bchap...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Glad you are interested in the project, I added you to the list of committers > in the proposal. > > I hope to learn more about your Web mapping use cases soon. > > Best, > > Bertil > > > > > > On 27 Sep 2022, at 04:03, Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io > > <mailto:j...@joshfischer.io>> wrote: > > > > Hi Bertil, > > > > I’d be happy to contribute if you’re interested. > > > > - Josh > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:25 AM Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com > > <mailto:bchap...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> Here is a proposal for Baremaps, a toolkit and a set of infrastructure > >> components for creating, publishing, and operating online maps. The > >> proposal is published on the wiki [1] and a demonstration of our base map > >> is available online [2]. > >> > >> The key challenge for Baremaps will be to create a sustainable community. > >> We appreciate anyone who would be willing to support us with bug reports, > >> code, mentoring or feedback. > >> > >> [1] - > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Baremaps+Proposal > >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Baremaps+Proposal> > >> [2] - https://demo.baremaps.com/ <https://demo.baremaps.com/> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Bertil Chapuis > >> > >> ---- > >> > >> Baremaps Proposal > >> > >> = Abstract = > >> Apache Baremaps is a toolkit and a set of infrastructure components for > >> creating, publishing, and operating online maps. > >> > >> = Proposal = > >> Apache Baremaps is a toolkit and a set of infrastructure components for > >> creating, publishing, and operating online maps. It provides a data > >> pipeline enabling developers to build maps with different data sources. It > >> offers live reload capabilities that allow cartographers to customize the > >> content and the style of a map. It includes an attribution-free map schema > >> and style that stimulates derived work. Finally, it provides services > >> commonly used in online maps, such as location search and IP to location. > >> > >> == Background == > >> The infrastructure components required to publish and operate large-scale > >> online maps are often closed-source, heterogeneous, complex, and expensive. > >> For instance: the visualization of maps in Web browsers or on mobile > >> devices requires processing and tiling large spatial datasets, such as > >> OpenStreetMap; the location of users based on their IP addresses requires > >> aggregating and merging data from network information centers; the ability > >> to search in a map requires indexing features based on text and spatial > >> attributes in different languages. > >> > >> == Rationale == > >> Web mapping infrastructure is often managed by large teams of developers > >> (e.g., Google Maps, Apple Maps, Mapbox, etc.), which makes it hard to > >> customize and evolve. Apache Baremaps is a Web mapping infrastructure for > >> the rest of us: it enables individuals and small teams of developers to > >> regain control over spatial data and to develop custom mapping experiences. > >> As a result, Apache Baremaps facilitates innovation in niche areas where > >> resources are limited and customization is needed (e.g., sustainable > >> mobility, civil engineering, urban planning, environment monitoring, > >> startups, etc.). > >> > >> == Initial Goals == > >> The primary goals are: > >> - to release a customizable attribution-free map schema and style; > >> - to publish a tiled world map in different formats (mvt, png, 3D Tiles > >> Next, etc.); > >> - to grow the community and attract new contributors; > >> - to release additional services and components (IP to location, location > >> search, etc.). > >> > >> == Current Status == > >> > >> === Meritocracy === > >> Baremaps is a project initially developed by Bertil Chapuis. It has > >> already attracted outside contributors. Therefore, the process of electing > >> new committers and project management committee members should be natural. > >> > >> === Community === > >> The need for Web mapping infrastructure is great, hence a good potential > >> for a diverse community mixing developers and cartographers. > >> > >> === Core Developers === > >> The contributors to Baremaps include developers from academia and > >> industry, mainly located in Europe. The contributions include > >> documentation, bug fixes, and new features. Most of the development and > >> communication currently takes place on GitHub. > >> > >> === Alignment === > >> Many critical components used in the geospatial community are released > >> under LGPL (e.g., Geotools, Geotoolkit). We are strongly aligned with the > >> terms of the Apache license. Joining the geospatial community at Apache > >> will enable us to be less reliant on components with contaminating > >> licenses. For instance, Apache SIS seeks to become an alternative to > >> Geotools and Geotoolkit. > >> > >> == Known Risks == > >> > >> === Project Name === > >> No trademark is associated with the Baremaps name, and the project is > >> already well referenced by search engines. The .com, .org, and .net domains > >> are the property of Bertil Chapuis, who agrees to transfer them to the > >> Apache Software Foundation unconditionally upon request. > >> > >> === Orphaned Products === > >> There is a risk of being orphaned due to the small number of committers. > >> Even if the main contributor has no plan to leave the project, this is a > >> problem we need to address in the future. > >> > >> === Inexperience with open source === > >> The initial committers contributed to open source projects in the past but > >> have only a few experiences with the governance of open source projects in > >> a Foundation such as Apache. > >> > >> === Length of incubation === > >> We expect to achieve most of the initial goals within one year. However, > >> some other goals (e.g., growing a community sufficiently diverse and > >> healthy to leave the incubator) are harder to estimate and may span over a > >> more extended time. > >> > >> === Homogenous Developers === > >> Most current developers work for the same institution (University of > >> Applied Sciences and Arts of Western Switzerland). We also started > >> receiving contributions from individuals and companies (e.g., Camptocamp). > >> > >> === Reliance on Salaried Developers === > >> Baremaps started as a hobby project. The geocoder and IP to location > >> components are the results of experiments conceived during research and > >> educational projects. The HTTP component was part of an R&D project at > >> camptocamp. > >> > >> === Relationships with Other Apache Products === > >> Apache Baremaps relies on other Apache projects to achieve its goals. > >> Apache SIS is used to import spatial data (e.g., Shapefile, GeoPackage, > >> GeoJSON) in PostGIS. Apache Lucene is used for indexing text and spatial > >> attributes. Apache Calcite may be considered as an alternative to PostGIS > >> in the future. > >> > >> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === > >> The geospatial community regularly encounters licensing problems. For > >> instance, Mapbox recently got closed source and forked into the MapLibre > >> project. The storage components of Apache SIS, which overlap with other > >> projects under LGPL in terms of functionality, take time to develop. The > >> most popular open source map schema for vector tiles is currently released > >> with a CC-BY license that discourages derivative work. We are interested in > >> joining the ASF because it sets a high bar for including third-party > >> libraries. In the long term, this will benefit our contributors, our users, > >> and, more generally, the geospatial community. > >> > >> == Documentation == > >> The documentation of baremaps can be found at: https://www.baremaps.com/ > >> <https://www.baremaps.com/> > >> > >> == Initial Source == > >> The source code of baremaps can be found at: > >> https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps <https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps> > >> > >> The base map can be found at: > >> https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps/tree/main/map > >> <https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps/tree/main/map> > >> > >> == External Dependencies == > >> To our knowledge, none of the dependencies currently used in our main > >> branch are a matter of concern (BSD, MIT, Apache). > >> > >> == Cryptography == > >> There is no cryptography required in Apache Baremaps at present time. > >> > >> = Required Resources = > >> > >> == Mailing lists == > >> baremaps-...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:baremaps-...@incubator.apache.org> > >> baremaps-u...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:baremaps-u...@incubator.apache.org> > >> baremaps-comm...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:baremaps-comm...@incubator.apache.org> > >> baremaps-priv...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:baremaps-priv...@incubator.apache.org> > >> > >> == Git Repositories == > >> We would like to transfer our current github repository to the apache > >> organization. > >> > >> Source: https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps > >> <https://github.com/baremaps/baremaps> > >> > >> Target: https://github.com/apache/baremaps > >> <https://github.com/apache/baremaps> > >> > >> == Issue Tracking == > >> We currently use GitHub to manage the issues and would also appreciate > >> using a GitHub project. > >> > >> https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects > >> <https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects> > >> > >> == Initial Committers == > >> Names of initial committers with affiliation and current ASF status: > >> - Bertil Chapuis (Heig-vd), Apache Committer, id: bchapuis > >> - Andrea Borghi (Camptocamp) > >> - James Smith (Heig-vd) > >> - Antoine Drabble (Heig-vd) > >> > >> = Sponsors = > >> > >> == Champion == > >> Bertrand Delacretaz > >> > >> == Mentors == > >> Martin Desruisseaux > >> George Percivall > >> Julian Hyde > >> > >> == Sponsoring Entity == > >> The Apache Incubator > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> <mailto:general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > >> > >> -- > > Sent from A Mobile Device > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > <mailto:general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > <mailto:general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > > -- > Sent from A Mobile Device
