+ 1 （non-binding） Best wishes, Charles Zhang from Apache InLong
tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年10月19日周三 18:23写道： > +1 (binding) > > Best, > tison. > > > Yu Xiao <xia...@apache.org> 于2022年10月19日周三 18:00写道： > > > + 1 （non-binding） > > > > Best wishes! > > > > Yu Xiao > > Apache ShenYu > > > > Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> 于2022年10月19日周三 17:51写道： > > > > > > +1 binding > > > Good luck. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 5:37 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 binding > > > > > > > > Welcome > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> 于2022年10月19日周三 17:32写道： > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Claude and Ryan for putting together the proposal. > > > > > > > > > > +1 binding > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 09:08, Claude Warren, Jr > > > > > <claude.war...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll even kick off the voting: > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 binding > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:04 AM Claude Warren, Jr < > > claude.war...@aiven.io> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reviewing the [DISCUSS] threads concerning bringing Pekko > > into the > > > > > > > incubator [1][2], and finding that there is no further comment, > > I am > > > > > > > calling for a VOTE to accept Pekko into the Apache Incubator. > > The text of > > > > > > > the proposal is included below for convenience, final and > > definitive text > > > > > > > is in the Pekko Proposal from the Incubator wiki.[3] . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration, > > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1t0x6d815td9dgjxhck51b5txcjm28rr > > > > > > > [2] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/cjo86gdwvqlqslq68gd0c8hxq6ds6yrz > > > > > > > [3] > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/PekkoProposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Pekko Proposal* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Abstract* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pekko is a toolkit and an ecosystem for building highly > > concurrent, > > > > > > > distributed, reactive and resilient applications for Java and > > Scala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Proposal* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pekko is a toolkit that brings the actor model (popularised by > > Erlang) to > > > > > > > the JVM, providing the basis for building both locally and > > distributed > > > > > > > concurrency. On top of this Pekko provides a rich set of > > libraries built on > > > > > > > top of Actors to solve modern problems, including: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Streams: Fully bi-directional backpressured streams > > following the > > > > > > > Reactive manifesto > > > > > > > - HTTP: A fully streamed HTTP client/server built on top of > > streams > > > > > > > that also provides expected tools (such as connection > > pooling) necessary > > > > > > > for highly available web services > > > > > > > - connectors: A rich set of connectors for various > databases, > > > > > > > messaging, persistent services built on top of streams > > > > > > > - grpc: A gRPC server/client > > > > > > > - projection: Provides abstractions necessary for CQRS > > pattern such as > > > > > > > envelope, necessary for systems such as Kafka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Background* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pekko is a fork of the Akka project just before its licence > > changed from > > > > > > > Apache 2 to Business Source License 1.1. The project provides a > > set of > > > > > > > tools and frameworks that covers the complex problem space of > > distributed > > > > > > > concurrent systems. It is designed to support the design > > principles of the > > > > > > > Reactive Manifesto by providing components to efficiently scale > > up systems > > > > > > > within a server or scale out across multiple servers, are high > > performance, > > > > > > > resilient to failure, distributed systems without a single > point > > of failure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Rationale* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a large cohort of applications and libraries that were > > dependent > > > > > > > upon the original open source version of this project. Numerous > > developers > > > > > > > contributed their time in the belief that the project would > stay > > open > > > > > > > source. When the licence was changed the work of those > > developers was > > > > > > > locked up and a vital resource for the cohort of applications > > and libraries > > > > > > > disappeared. Apache Flink is an example of a library that used > > the original > > > > > > > library upon which this project is based. This project is to > > continue the > > > > > > > open source development that was promised under the original > > Apache 2 > > > > > > > licence. We ask that the Apache Foundation accept this project > > so as to > > > > > > > prevent any future incompatible licence switch in the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache has a long standing tradition of not accepting hostile > > forks. There > > > > > > > has been some discussion of whether this project violates that > > tradition. > > > > > > > We believe that it does not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For many years, Lightbend has been a steward for this open > > source project, > > > > > > > attracting contributions from many developers and building a > > community > > > > > > > under the Apache License. It's within their rights to offer > > their future > > > > > > > work under a different licence. The Pekko project will provide > > the > > > > > > > continuity of an Apache-licensed home for long-term support, > > maintenance > > > > > > > and new features for the developers that wish to continue using > > and > > > > > > > building on their previous work. The major historical reason > why > > Apache > > > > > > > would be a good home for Pekko is that it will protect the > > project from > > > > > > > licence changes similar to what is instigating the initial > > incubation > > > > > > > proposal. If Pekko becomes part of Apache then it gives > > confidence to the > > > > > > > community/users of Pekko that such an incident won’t happen in > > the future > > > > > > > again. There are also currently existing Apache projects such > as > > Flink that > > > > > > > use Akka to varying degrees and hence having Pekko to be part > of > > Apache > > > > > > > gives confidence to these other Apache projects. We believe > that > > this fork > > > > > > > is a maintenance of the pre-existing Apache 2 licence and ask > > that the > > > > > > > Apache community view it as such. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, Akka had a very large penetration in both Scala and > > Java > > > > > > > codebases, particularly in large scale enterprise > > projects/systems. Since > > > > > > > it is a JVM based library it fits well into the Apache > > ecosystem. We feel > > > > > > > that we can contribute to the stability of existing Apache > > projects as > > > > > > > Apache can contribute to the stability of Pekko. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Initial Goals* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to the sheer size of Akka, initial goals will be largely be > > adjusting > > > > > > > and modifying the codebase so its fit for community orientated > > > > > > > contributions, this includes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Removing the Akka trademark from all sections in the code. > > > > > > > - Setting up the build system using github actions to make > > sure we > > > > > > > have a CI system setup whenever pull requests are made (some > > Akka projects > > > > > > > use github actions already, in which case we need to make > > sure it still > > > > > > > works after the work). > > > > > > > - Also using github actions for Maven/Github releases, in > > Scala/SBT > > > > > > > projects it's typical to trigger a release when a person > with > > necessary > > > > > > > rights pushes a signed git tag. Also need to find a solution > > for the > > > > > > > official Apache source SVN release. > > > > > > > - Other adjustments such as using testcontainers to minimise > > the > > > > > > > friction in running tests for projects such as containers. > > > > > > > - Update all of the documentation to be appropriate for an > > Apache > > > > > > > project (as well as using the project’s name). > > > > > > > - Assure continuity of security fixes and update on the > > existing > > > > > > > Apache-licensed code, which might otherwise be at risk. > > > > > > > - Continuously building community and identifying the > > contributors > > > > > > > that might assume project management roles for a successful > > graduation. > > > > > > > - Port and/or merge currently open contributions/PR’s from > > Akka > > > > > > > community, if they are willing, which are currently frozen > > due to the > > > > > > > licence change. > > > > > > > - This will be done after the first release of Pekko to > > accommodate > > > > > > > for companies that were using Akka so that they can use a > > version of Pekko > > > > > > > that is functionally equivalent to the last Apache release > of > > Akka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Current StatusMeritocracy:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The project upon which Pekko is based was initially very > > welcoming to > > > > > > > contributions from external developers. However, they were > > controlled by a > > > > > > > commercial entity. Some projects were labelled as “community > > driven > > > > > > > projects”, those would not have the guarantee from the entity > to > > have a > > > > > > > dedicated person working on them, so they needed to rely on > > community > > > > > > > participation. The entity allowed trusted external developers > to > > commit to > > > > > > > the code base and have write access to these mentioned > community > > > > > > > repositories. The new management team understands that, and > > hopes that > > > > > > > developers will become engaged with the project and will help > > drive the > > > > > > > development of processes as well as code so that we can become > > the > > > > > > > welcoming development team we hope to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many of the core developers are experienced Apache developers > > working on > > > > > > > other projects. Through their understanding and the work of the > > mentors we > > > > > > > are assured that a meritocracy will thrive around this > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Community*: > > > > > > > Akka being an already established open source project already > > has a > > > > > > > community. This community was present in many channels, such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Scala reddit (/r/scala) > > > > > > > - Akka gitter channel > > > > > > > - Lightbend forums > > > > > > > - Scala community forums > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is expected that once Pekko is launched a portion of this > > community > > > > > > > (specifically the ones interested in open source contributions) > > would > > > > > > > migrate to Pekko’s mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Early discussions in existing community forums have shown that > > there is > > > > > > > interest in an Apache project and we have commitment from > > several channels > > > > > > > to contribute to this project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Early participants in the discussions forming this project are > > > > > > > participants in the above channels and have a broad reach that > > will bring > > > > > > > other developers into the project. In addition to software > > developers we > > > > > > > have documentation specialists and test engineers > participating. > > We have a > > > > > > > broad community. And while it does not have the depth we would > > like, we > > > > > > > believe that it will continue to grow as we move forward. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Core Developers:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The individuals on the committer list are ones who have a > > history of > > > > > > > contributing to the Akka project before the licence change as > > well as > > > > > > > individuals that participated in community discussion on > various > > Akka > > > > > > > forums (i.e. Lightbend forums). In addition the individuals > have > > a history > > > > > > > of working and contributing to open source projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Glover is a former member of the Akka team. He primarily > > maintained > > > > > > > Akka Streams and related projects Alpakka and Alpakka Kafka. He > > currently > > > > > > > uses Akka on the job and in other OSS projects he maintains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phillip Warburton feels he is not enough of an expert to > > contribute code > > > > > > > but is interested in contributing in to document clean-room > > fixes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy Chen is a contributor on Akka and his work is based on the > > Akka > > > > > > > libraries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Luc Deprez works on a small team, mid sized software > > company, > > > > > > > subsidiary of a large corporate group. His team built a project > > on top of > > > > > > > Akka. The September 7th licence change came as a pretty hard > > personal blow. > > > > > > > He will divert his community participation this way, > > contributing in > > > > > > > discussions and issues. If the team figure out a fix, you can > > count on a PR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Methvin is a maintainer on Play Framework (which is now > > > > > > > community-maintained). We are evaluating whether this can serve > > as a > > > > > > > replacement for Lightbend Akka going forward, as opposed to > > moving off Akka > > > > > > > entirely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nicolas Vollmar is a maintainer on the akka-kryo-serialization > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PJ Fanning maintains a few akka related projects: > > swagger-akka-http and > > > > > > > micrometer-akka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Schröter is a maintainer of the akka-kryo-serialization > > project. > > > > > > > Altoo is using akka and has been regularly submitting > > bugfixes/improvements > > > > > > > to akka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josep Prat is the top 5 contributor of the Akka HTTP module and > > did all > > > > > > > contributions during his spare time, also he is in position 45 > > of all time > > > > > > > committers in the Akka project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich is a contributor to both Akka and Alpakka, > > submitting > > > > > > > extra feature improvements as well as the wider Scala OS > > ecosystem in > > > > > > > general (i.e. contributions to Scala stdlib itself, Scalatest > > etc etc). > > > > > > > Most of these contributions were done in his spare time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexandru Nedelcu created Monix which is one of the popular > > > > > > > reactive/future/IO implementation used within the Scala > > ecosystem that > > > > > > > adheres to the Reactive Streams protocol. He is a very prolific > > contributor > > > > > > > to the Scala OS ecosystem, having been previously part of the > > Typelevel > > > > > > > steering committee and also happens to works at a company that > > heavily uses > > > > > > > Akka for its payment systems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johannes Rudolph is a major contributor to akka and the lead > > developer for > > > > > > > akka-http. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Alignment:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Flink is using Akka however they are looking for a > > replacement due > > > > > > > to the licence change. We expect that other Apache projects > will > > require > > > > > > > the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We believe that we can be a good community member. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Known RisksProject Name* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several names were floated to replace the Akka name. There was > a > > community > > > > > > > discussion and vote around the name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have selected the name Pekko after a vote on candidate > names. > > Akka is > > > > > > > the Finnish goddess of fertility and the earth. Pekko is the > > FInnish god of > > > > > > > farming & protector of the crops which create a nice analogy in > > a sense. We > > > > > > > pronounce the name Peck-O. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A search of the WIPO database and EU IPO Search did not turn up > > any active > > > > > > > Nice category 9 trademark registrations containing the phrase > > “pekko”. All > > > > > > > results were “pekko” compounded with other phrases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Orphaned products* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pekko provides libraries that are used by major companies, > Apache > > > > > > > projects, and individuals. The initial development team > comprises > > > > > > > representatives from these organisations. We believe that Pekko > > will > > > > > > > attract open source developers that have contributed to Akka in > > the past > > > > > > > and want to see their work continue to be open source. We are > > here, not > > > > > > > because we are a potentially orphaned product, but rather > > because the > > > > > > > contributors to the existing product want to see the open > source > > project > > > > > > > continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Inexperience with Open Source:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The project upon which Pekko is based was, as noted above, an > > open source > > > > > > > project. The developers that wish to continue with the > > development > > > > > > > understand open source projects. Several of the developers are > > committers > > > > > > > on other Apache projects. Several are members of open source > > project > > > > > > > offices at their respective employers. Several of our members > are > > > > > > > experienced in developing communities around open source > > projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Length of Incubation:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We expect that the incubation process will be quite long as we > > have > > > > > > > significant code cleanup and documentation scrubbing to be > > completed. In > > > > > > > addition we need to configure the Apache build systems to > > properly build > > > > > > > what is a fairly complex project (i.e. akka core has tests that > > require > > > > > > > multi node machines). An incubation of 1-2 years would not be > > unexpected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Homogenous Developers:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current list of committers spans Asia, Europe, and the > > Americas. All > > > > > > > are experienced in working in distributed environments. While > > there are > > > > > > > cultural differences, all are committed to open source > > development. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Reliance on Salaried Developers:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While several of the developers have the same employer, no > > employer has > > > > > > > specifically stated that they are committing developers to > > Pekko. Any > > > > > > > commercial contributions of time/effort are due to the need for > > > > > > > changes/fixes to the libraries used by the commercial entities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All developers have shown a specific interest in keeping this > > project open > > > > > > > source and we expect that future developers will join for the > > same reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Relationships with Other Apache Products:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As noted above Akka is used by Apache Flink though Flink is > > planning to > > > > > > > migrate away. We anticipate that they will transition to Pekko > > when it > > > > > > > becomes available. We expect that other projects may find the > > library of > > > > > > > use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We understand the need to protect the Apache brand. We also > > understand > > > > > > > that the Apache brand brings a licensing guarantee. While we > are > > desirous > > > > > > > of the licensing guarantee, we believe that the project we are > > bringing is > > > > > > > viable and important. We think that it will provide support for > > at least > > > > > > > two existing Apache projects and contribute to the strength of > > the Apache > > > > > > > brand world wide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Documentation* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current documentation can be found at https://akka.io/docs > > Other > > > > > > > documentation is available as .md files within the source tree > > of the > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Initial Source* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The original source comes from the Lightbend Akka github > > repository before > > > > > > > they transitioned to the Business Source License. The code base > > to be > > > > > > > imported resides in several repositories under the control of > > Matthew > > > > > > > Benedict de Detrich, the base one being > > > > > > > https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since Pekko is forked from an already existing Akka codebase > > there is a > > > > > > > high chance that there may be existing IP/trademarks in the > > codebase that > > > > > > > needs to be screened. The Akka name itself needs to be > > changed/removed > > > > > > > entirely from the codebase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition there are already existing github triggers and > other > > > > > > > mechanisms that build and test the system. We will need to > > review the > > > > > > > triggers to determine how to implement the same or similar > > functionality on > > > > > > > the Apache infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our high level plan is to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. A lift and shift of the existing github core repository > > into the > > > > > > > Apache repository. > > > > > > > 2. Modification of the build and test process to run on the > > Apache > > > > > > > build infrastructure. > > > > > > > 3. Emphasis on the dev and user mailing lists for help > > requests and > > > > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > 4. Development and modification of project documentation. > > > > > > > 5. Create a “release” 0.1.0. > > > > > > > 6. Verify release > > > > > > > 7. Functionality > > > > > > > 8. Documentation > > > > > > > 9. Meets Apache standards > > > > > > > 10. Continue using the above process to migrate additional > > libraries > > > > > > > to the Apache libraries with each one being a release > “0.x.0” > > > > > > > 11. Upon completion of the migration of all pertinent > > libraries > > > > > > > release 1.0.0 > > > > > > > 12. This strategy gives us the opportunity of learning the > > Apache way > > > > > > > and the Apache infrastructure with small modules before we > > move into the > > > > > > > more complex systems, building up layer by layer until we > > have a complete > > > > > > > first release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *External Dependencies:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The initial code was licensed under Apache Source License v2. > As > > such we > > > > > > > believe that it meets all the requirements for external > > dependencies. > > > > > > > However, as part of the incubation process we will verify that > > all > > > > > > > dependencies have appropriate licences. Any dependencies that > do > > not meet > > > > > > > the requirements will be removed and alternative libraries or > > code used > > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cryptography:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We believe that there is no cryptographic code in the code > base. > > However, > > > > > > > as part of the incubation process we will verify that this is > > true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Required ResourcesMailing lists:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > priv...@pekko.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > d...@pekko.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > us...@pekko.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > comm...@pekko.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > Subversion Directory: > > > > > > > We do not intend to use subversion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Git Repositories:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-pekko.git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Issue Tracking:* > > > > > > > JIRA Pekko (PEKKO) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Initial Committers* > > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich mdedetr...@gmail.com (CLA submitted) > > > > > > > Josep Prat jo...@prat.tech (CLA submitted) > > > > > > > He Pin hepin1...@gmail.com (CLA submitted) > > > > > > > Andrea Zito zito.and...@gmail.com > > > > > > > Andrea Peruffo andrea.peruffo1...@gmail.com > > > > > > > Alexandru Nedelcu m...@alexn.org > > > > > > > Joe Brockmeier j...@apache.org > > > > > > > Sean Glover s...@seanglover.com > > > > > > > Greg Methvin g...@methvin.net (play framework) > > > > > > > Nicolas Vollmar nicolas.voll...@altoo.io > > > > > > > PJ Fanning fannin...@yahoo.com > > > > > > > Daniel Schröter d...@theone.ch > > > > > > > Michael Kohout mwkoh...@gmail.com > > > > > > > jxnu-liguobin dreamyl...@outlook.com > > > > > > > Salar Rahmanian sa...@softinio.com > > > > > > > Jonas Chapuis m...@jonaschapuis.com > > > > > > > Andreas Gabor acc_apa...@beezle.de > > > > > > > Johannes Rudolph johannes.rudo...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been a lot of interest in being an initial committer, > > and we've > > > > > > > tried to pick a fair representation of interested developers > > from the > > > > > > > requests. We want to be clear that we welcome all contributions > > and expect > > > > > > > that the incubation period is the right time for this list to > > grow and > > > > > > > evolve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Sponsors* > > > > > > > No company has committed to providing dedicated developers for > > the project > > > > > > > but Aiven and Altoo have committed to supporting development as > > needed by > > > > > > > their respective organisations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Champion*: > > > > > > > Claude Warren cla...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Nominated Mentors:* > > > > > > > Claude Warren cla...@apache.org > > > > > > > Justin McLean jmcl...@apache.org > > > > > > > Ryan Skraba rskr...@apache.org > > > > > > > PJ Fanning fannin...@yahoo.com > > > > > > > Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org > > > > > > > Wu Sheng wush...@apache.org > > > > > > > JB Onofré jbono...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Sponsoring Entity:* > > > > > > > The Incubator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best wishes！ > > > CalvinKirs > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
