Looks like Kyuubi project do have improved diversity in PPMC and committers
through our incubation process.
I think it is good for the project to move forward!

Thanks,

Junping

Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> 于2022年11月14日周一 10:06写道:

> Hi, Calvin
>
> - PPMC (2021-06-21~now)
> Akira Ajisaka  AWS(formerly Yahoo! JAPAN)
> Cheng Pan  NetEase(formerly Zhongyan Technology)
> Dongdong Hong  China Mobile
> Duo Zhang  Sensors data
> Fei Wang  eBay
> Hongxiang Jiang  NetEase
> Jeff Zhang  eBay(formerly Alibaba Group)
> Kent Yao  NetEase
> Shaoyun Chen  XieCheng
> Vino Yang  T3
> Willem Ning Jiang  Huawei
> XiDuo You  NetEase
>
> - Committers (2021-06-21~now)
>
> Fu Cheng  Dingxiangyuan
> Min Zhao  NetEase
> Nicholas Jiang  Bilibili(formerly Alibaba Group)
> Qingbo Jiao  AsiaInfo
> Zhen Wang  iQiYi
>
> Kent Yao
>
> On 2022/11/11 12:13:39 Calvin Kirs wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 2:51 PM Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure who is not active.
> > > Is the conclusion based on git commits or LOC, some of them may be not
> that 'active'?
> >
> > Which PPMC are active and which PPMC are not active, you should know
> > it better than I do.
> >
> > A quick look at the commits and dev or private mailing lists.
> > How many emails does Hongxiang Jiang have?
> >
> > Put on the IPMC hat, I'm just worried that the withdrawal of NetEase
> > will stop the development of the project, we have such an example.
> > And I  just request you list PPMC affiliations. I don't understand
> > it's so difficult.
> > [1]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@kyuubi.apache.org:lte=1M:Hongxiang
> > >
> > > Decisions making mostly happens in the kyuubi@dev and we have
> received serval Kyuubi Project Improvement Proposals (KPIP)[1]  archived in
> Github Discussion, which are major
> > > changes to the project. These KPIPs are from different people and
> organizations and none
> > > get merged or rejected depending on the will of an individual, or an
> organization.
> > >
> > >
> > > You can also check the latest event[2] of the kyuubi community, the
> producer(from bilibili),
> > >  the sponsor(DatafunTalk), and 5/6 of the speakers are not from or
> related to NetEase.
> > > Actually, I was the last person to know about it and get involved in
> organizing it. So, I invited ZhaoMin from NetEase as a speaker to talk
> about his interesting work for Kyuubi on Apache
> > > Doris, and he accepted. Or the event is 0% NetEase ingredients, I
> guess.
> > >
> > > Hope these examples could properly prove the efforts of other
> organizations/individuals
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Kent
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/discussions/categories/ideas?discussions_q=category%3AIdeas+KPIP
> > > [2] https://my.oschina.net/u/4565392/blog/5581650
> > >
> > > On 2022/11/11 04:45:11 Calvin Kirs wrote:
> > > > I looked at some PPMCs and it seems that some are no longer active.
> > > > If the active PPMC is basically from NetEase, then I worry that the
> > > > continued development of the project still depends on NetEase's
> > > > decision, we have some such examples.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:16 AM Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Calvin,
> > > > >
> > > > > We add three new PPMCs during incubation, and they are all not
> NetEase-ers.
> > > > > And we also add eight other committers who are still actively
> contributing to
> > > > > code and community, and there are only one of them from NetEase.
> The current
> > > > > PPMC still seeks opportunities to invite them and other active
> contributors
> > > > > and expand itself based on community-level contributions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > could you list the active PPMC ratio in detail?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure whether it is good to do detail a ratio number by
> organization.
> > > > > The current Kyuubi PPMC develops the community based on individual
> > > > > contributions. I will update the discussion if you think this is
> good and
> > > > > necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bests,
> > > > > Kent
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2022/11/11 01:06:30 Calvin Kirs wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I noticed that the ratio of PPMC from NetEase to PPMC from other
> > > > > > companies has reached 1:1,
> > > > > > I'm a little worried, could you list the active PPMC ratio in
> detail?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:20 PM li gang <lgcar...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > > > BTW,I checked by the [1],here is an issue that has not
> provided a  wiki
> > > > > > > link,I think it's better to provide the wiki link.
> > > > > > > [1]https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/kyuubi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> 于2022年11月7日周一 17:40写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello, Incubator community and IMPC-ers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kyuubi has been an incubating project since 2021-06-21 after
> the
> > > > > > > > proposal[1] was accepted. During the incubation, the Kyuubi
> project
> > > > > > > > and community developed stably and continuously following
> the Apache
> > > > > > > > Way. By sorting out and self-checking the Kyuubi maturity
> model[2],
> > > > > > > > we believe that the Kyuubi project is ready for graduating
> as a Top
> > > > > > > > Level Project. Meanwhile, corresponding threads for both
> discussions[3]
> > > > > > > > and vote[4][5] have been finished in the kyuubi@dev mailing
> list with
> > > > > > > > positive results. Hereby, we would like to collect feedback
> from the
> > > > > > > > incubator community through this discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is a brief overview of the progress of the Apache
> Kyuubi(incubating)
> > > > > > > > project and community since entering the incubator:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ** Community **
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - 3 new PPMC members were added, bringing the total number
> to 12.
> > > > > > > >   The community strives to be meritocratic and diverse, the
> current
> > > > > > > >   PPMC(mentors excluded) consists of individuals from
> different
> > > > > > > >   organizations, China Mobile(1), Ctrip(1), eBay(1),
> NetEase(4), and T3(1).
> > > > > > > > - 8 new committers were added, bringing the total number to
> 17.
> > > > > > > >  The newly added committers(PPMC excluded) are also from
> > > > > > > >   different organizations, AsiaInfo(1), Bilibili(1),
> Dingxiangyuan(1),
> > > > > > > > iQiYi(1),
> > > > > > > >   and NetEase(1).
> > > > > > > > - 60+ new contributors participate in the community. The
> number of
> > > > > > > > contributors are now 98 and still growing.
> > > > > > > > - The dev@kyuubi mailing list currently has 75 subscribers,
> and all major
> > > > > > > > project discussions happen there. The GitHub discussions
> page is also being
> > > > > > > > actively used for user questions, feature requests, story
> sharing, etc.
> > > > > > > > - Held 3 meetups by our community, and participated in 20+
> events, such as
> > > > > > > > ApacheCon, to promote the Kyuubi project.
> > > > > > > > - All PPMC members are willing to join the Kyuubi PMC
> membership after
> > > > > > > >  graduation[6][7].
> > > > > > > > - Kent Yao(y...@apache.org) was voted as Vice President[8].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ** Project **
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - 8 releases[9] by 8 different release managers.
> > > > > > > > - 1400+ pull requests merged[10], and 900+ issues
> resolved[11].
> > > > > > > > - Kyuubi website[12] is now compliant with the Apache
> Project Website
> > > > > > > > requirements[13].
> > > > > > > > - Project maturity model is detailed in[2].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ** Licensing and Branding Issues **
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - We have applied the podling name search[14] and it has
> been reviewed
> > > > > > > > and approved.
> > > > > > > > - IP Clearance: 2021-06-21
> > > > > > > > - Software Grant Received on: 2021-07-04
> > > > > > > > - Confirmation of ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code on:
> 2021-06-21
> > > > > > > > - Confirmation of Binary Distribution Licensing: 2021-09-14
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > BEGINNING OF DRAFT RESOLUTION
> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Kyuubi Project
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of
> > > > > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose
> to establish
> > > > > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > > > > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public,
> > > > > > > > related to a distributed and multi-tenant gateway to provide
> serverless
> > > > > > > > SQL on data warehouses and lakehouses.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee
> > > > > > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kyuubi Project", be and
> hereby is
> > > > > > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
> further
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kyuubi Project be and hereby is
> responsible
> > > > > > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to a
> distributed
> > > > > > > > and multi-tenant gateway to provide serverless SQL on data
> warehouses
> > > > > > > > and lakehouses.; and be it further
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Kyuubi"
> be and
> > > > > > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
> at the
> > > > > > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Kyuubi
> > > > > > > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management
> of the
> > > > > > > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
> Kyuubi
> > > > > > > > Project; and be it further
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are
> > > > > > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache
> Kyuubi Project:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Cheng Pan <cheng...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Dongdong Hong <hon...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Duo Zhang <zhang...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Fei Wang <feiw...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Hongxiang Jiang <jhx1...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Jeff Zhang <zjf...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Kent Yao <y...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Shaoyun Chen <c...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Vino Yang <vinoy...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > * XiDuo You <ulysses...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Kent Yao be
> appointed to
> > > > > > > > the office of Vice President, Apache Kyuubi, to serve in
> accordance with
> > > > > > > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and
> the Bylaws of
> > > > > > > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> or
> > > > > > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
> it further
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kyuubi Project be and hereby is
> tasked with
> > > > > > > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> Kyuubi
> > > > > > > > podling; and be it further
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator
> > > > > > > > Kyuubi podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> hereafter
> > > > > > > > discharged.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > END OF DRAFT RESOLUTION
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please refer to the Kyuubi project incubation status[15] for
> more
> > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > > This discussion will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kent Yao
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/KyuubiProposal
> > > > > > > > [2]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/blob/master/MATURITY.md
> > > > > > > > [3]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/h7bd68r91foj9d4gnc33f2f321kbbc4g
> > > > > > > > [4]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/4pfyp9wcj881mr6swcc6x1bfzn632vwd
> > > > > > > > [5]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/4vgk21bxlo9cc1340oyh6ptwxh24y3m7
> > > > > > > > [6]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/00j79b4kq4jzdc7sv7syhosm1m5245rl
> > > > > > > > [7]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/n52fstybz9orovkrkfjl22o3yc266q65
> > > > > > > > [8]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/hqtvfvoyvzj2kssc5jhq11q8pjvorxfq
> > > > > > > > [9] https://kyuubi.apache.org/releases.html
> > > > > > > > [10]
> > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/pulls?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+closed%3A%3E=2021-06-21
> > > > > > > > [11]
> > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+closed%3A%3E2021-06-21
> > > > > > > > [12] https://kyuubi.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > [13] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/kyuubi
> > > > > > > > [14]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-196
> > > > > > > > [15] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/kyuubi.html
> > > > > > > >
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