Thank you -- I will proceed with a name search and work up a proposal draft
as next steps.

I am tracking this work in [1] for anyone who wishes to follow along.

[1] https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/issues/8491

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:24 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> You could also look into how Solr was spun out of Lucene.
>
> It would be up to your PMC whether to make the new PMC identical or not.
>
> Doing a podling name search on
> DataFusion does check a box for the board.
>
> The best place to continue this discussion is bo...@apache.org
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 15, 2023, at 8:02 AM, Andrew Lamb <al...@influxdata.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Julian. This is very helpful. I will review the archives.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 10:55 AM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe the process is for the Board to create a new PMC whose IP and
> >> PMC members are an exact copy of the parent PMC.  (Like the Unix “fork”
> >> function.) And then both PMCs delete the stuff, and PMC members, they no
> >> longer need.
> >>
> >> Arrow itself was created via this process (from Drill). You could search
> >> the archives for the board resolution that created Arrow. The Incubator
> is
> >> not involved in the process. (Except in some minor ways, such as a name
> >> search.)
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 7:09 AM, Andrew Lamb <al...@influxdata.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this
> question.
> >>>
> >>> Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose
> >>> “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project?
> >>>
> >>> Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache
> Arrow
> >>> DataFusion”[1]  sub project to its own Top Level Project. The
> DataFusion
> >>> project has sort of been “incubating” within the Arrow top level
> project
> >>> for several years and has grown to the point where it can both stand on
> >> its
> >>> own as well as benefit from more focused community[2].
> >>>
> >>> I searched the archives of this list [3] and did not find anything that
> >>> seemed relevant.
> >>>
> >>> I did find, farther back in history, that the Mahout, Avro and HBase
> >>> projects appear to have previously “graduated” from sub projects of
> >> Hadoop
> >>> to their own top level projects but could not determine how they did
> so.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for any guidance you may be able to provide,
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://arrow.apache.org/datafusion/
> >>>
> >>> [2] https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions/6475
> >>>
> >>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> [4]
> >>>
> >>
> https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces4
> >>
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