Hi Suyan,

Now I wonder how people get to that document...

Thanks,
Craig

> On Mar 21, 2024, at 07:53, Suyan <suyanh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I did a google search and it seems to come from here:
> https://shenyu.apache.org/community/icla/
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Suyan
> 
> Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> 于2024年3月21日周四 22:50写道:
>> 
>> I'm aware of the wall of text at contributor-agreements, but from what I've 
>> seen there is another short version that people are using that contains the 
>> specific text:
>> 
>> Hello Apache,
>>   I am willing to contribute to the ASF. The attachment is my ICLA
>> information. My Github account is :
>> 
>> Any ideas where this is coming from? I think that is the place we need to 
>> enhance.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 21:52, Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Firstly, we can enhance the document at 
>>> https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html by adding 
>>> clearer instructions on how to complete the forms. I'm ready to tackle this 
>>> task. Where can I find the repository to get started?
>>> 
>>> Then, I believe the mentors should be responsible for guiding new initial 
>>> committers
>>> on how to correctly fill out the ICLA forms.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 12:20, Craig Russell wrote:
>>>> I have seen several instances where initial committers send ICLAs to
>>>> secretary with this text:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Apache,
>>>>   I am willing to contribute to the ASF. The attachment is my ICLA
>>>> information. My Github account is :
>>>> 
>>>> This is bad. Most of the ICLAs do not have sufficient information to
>>>> allow secretary to process the forms and create the new accounts.
>>>> 
>>>> Where is this information? How can we improve it so that submitters 
>>>> include:
>>>> 
>>>> full residence address
>>>> full name
>>>> proper requested ASF id
>>>> podling name
>>>> signature (not script font)
>>>> date
>>>> 
>>>> We really can do better, but we have to have better documentation.
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> c...@apache.org
>>>> 
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