Hi,

Both of these projects are new and just getting set up. I'd give them a
little time to do that. Infra in recent years have asked to minimise work
for them on graduation. We recently dropped the requirement for having
incubating in podling domain names so I don't see it's needed in repo names
as long as it clear the project is an incubating project.
Kind Regards,
Justin


On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, 1:47 pm Willem Jiang, <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote:

> With the "incubator" profix, it's easy for us to tell if the project
> belongs to the incubator and it is still in the incubating process.
> Currently I cannot find any disclaimer document[1] in the repo root
> directory from [2][3] to tell if they are still in the incubator or
> not.
>
> [1]https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#disclaimers
> [2]https://github.com/apache/amoro
> [3]https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:06 AM Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
> > Foundation.
> >
> > I haven't specifically witnessed any formal decision or process for
> > removing the "incubator" prefix from repository names.
> >
> > Unless there are compelling reasons to remove the "incubator" prefix, I
> > believe it's important to maintain a clear distinction between Podlings
> and
> > TLPs, especially in situations where confusion is likely to arise.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:32 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Same mistake for Armoro as Hertzbeat team was misguided from
> > > https://github.com/apache/amoro/issues/2700
> > >
> > > This is not discussed AFAIK, and the description is not correct.
> > > GitHub supported renaming and repository path forward automatically
> > > years ago. apache/incubator-foo -> apache/foo is transparent and both
> > > addresses work.
> > >
> > > This should not be changed randomly considering many other projects
> > > are using incubator- prefix. This renaming causes confusion. IPMC are
> > > making sure the website has `incubating` and disclaimer as always,
> > > suddenly some projects even could use repository names without
> > > prefixes. This is wrong.
> > >
> > > Mentors of Armoro and Hertzbeat should follow the existing
> > > requirements, and PPMC members of these two projects should ask INFRA
> > > to rename, adding the incubator- prefix back.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> 于2024年4月17日周三 10:19写道:
> > > >
> > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the
> project
> > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be?
> > > >
> > > > Based on the discussions in this mailing list, the only change made
> is
> > > the removal of `incubator` from the domain. Now, users access `
> > > polding.apache.org` instead of `polding.incubator.apache.org` by
> default.
> > > >
> > > > The project and releases are still required to include "incubator",
> and
> > > it's important for the PPMC to clearly communicate that this project
> > > remains under incubation.
> > > >
> > > > In this case, I believe Hertzbeat PPMC made a mistake. I will suggest
> > > they rename it to incubator-hertzbeat.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 14:23, rat O wrote:
> > > > > First of all, congratulations to HertzBeat for successfully
> entering
> > > > > the Apache Incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that the project has created an issue for an unknown
> license
> > > > > and is ready to address it. I'm sure the project will also address
> > > > > other unknown licenses, if they exist.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder if the situation of having a significant amount of
> non-English
> > > > > languages in the codes, like these
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/warehouse/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/warehouse/config/WarehouseProperties.java
> > > ,
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/entity/manager/NoticeRule.java
> > > ,
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/config/AviatorConfiguration.java
> > > > > ...
> > > > > , will all of them also be addressed in the future?
> > > > >
> > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the
> project
> > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Xuanwo
> > > >
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