+1 (non-binding) On 2024/05/09 08:15:10 Imba Jin wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", it > could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As > expected) > > However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit non-prefix > url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead of > automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe we > need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) > > Hope my explanation is clear~ > > Imba Jin > > On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > >>> sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > > >>>> > > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > > >>>> indication. > > >>>> > > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > > >>>> users, > > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > >>> > > >>> Can't agree more on this. > > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > >>> indicator is clear enough. > > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > >>> GitHub supported operation. > > >>> > > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > >> > > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > > >> branding of podlings. > > > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > > matter to the end user? > > > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > > > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > > >>>> <alin.jerpe...@sony.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > > >>>>> migrate after graduation > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best regards > > >>>>> Alin > > >>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>> Från: hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> > > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > > >>>>> name > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla <richard@ > > >>>>> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. > > >>>>> Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu <wu. sheng. 841108@ gmail. > > >>>>> com>: > >-0 > > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > > >>>>> sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -0 (binding) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla <rich...@zowalla.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> -0 (binding) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (I like the prefix) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu > > >>>>>> <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > > >>>>>>> -0 binding > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > >>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > > >>>>>>>>> <francischu...@apache.org> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Francis > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > > >>>>>> following > > >>>>>>>>>> proposals: > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > > >>>>>> GitHub repo to > > >>>>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > >>>>>>>>>> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > >>>>>>>>>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > > >>>>>> description > > >>>>>>>>>> can conflict with this consensus. > > >>>>>>>>>> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to > > >>>>>>>>>> describe > > >>>>>>>>>> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > >>>>>>>>>> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > > >>>>>> DISCLAIMER > > >>>>>>>>>> content). > > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > >>>>>>>>>> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the > > >>>>>>>>>> incubator- > > >>>>>>>>>> prefix, and other items above > > >>>>>>>>>> +0 do not care strongly > > >>>>>>>>>> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > >>>>>>>>>> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > > >>>>>> member of > > >>>>>>>>>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > >>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > >>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>> tison. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Best Regards, > > >>>>> - *Hulk Lin* > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
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