Hi, My issue is not that this is a single-vendor project or that people have been recognised for non-code contributions - both are fine. I would suggest that the project slims down the initial committer list and not split it into PPMC and committers. As part of the incubating process, you can vote in new committers and PPMC members for their contributions.
Kind Regards, Justin > On 2 Aug 2024, at 3:33 am, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for your message. > > I'm a bit confused now: it seems that we have a consensus that the > Polaris proposal is solid and correct (according to the number of > positive feedback in this discussion so far). > > Justin expressed concerns, asking to update the proposal. As said, I > understand the comment, and would be happy to change the proposal. > > Who's having the same concern and request to change the proposal ? > Should we move forward to a vote with the current proposal as Dave proposed ? > > I don't want to frustrate anyone here. I have the feeling that if I > don't change the proposal, at least Justin would not be happy, and, on > the other hand, if I change the proposal, others would not be happy. > So, I'm open to suggestions. > > I think the Polaris proposal is solid, the contributions (code and non > code) are there, the community is small but eager to grow (and that's > the purpose of the incubator). > > Regards > JB > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 6:39 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Justin, >> >>> In short, this seems to me (and I could be wrong) like a project mostly >>> from a single vendor, but the proposal has been made to make it look like >>> more people are involved. It may well be that these people will be >>> involved, but I’d prefer if the project was upfront about this and added >>> committers the usual way during incubation. >> >> When and where should a “single vendor” collaborate on a common code >> project? If we block “single vendor” projects from Incubation then it’s time >> to start one of our periodic the Incubator is broken discussions. >> >> The Incubator has many retired podlings that failed to form a community. >> That went from 3 or 4 to 1 or 0 community members. One example was >> ODFToolkit which came in at the same time as OpenOffice.org. ODFToolkit >> lingered for about 7 or 8 years. OpenOffice.org had an unusual anyone can >> signup to be an Initial Committer which brought the number to 73! As the >> current VP, OpenOffice I would not be wrong to say that the project would be >> in the Attic if that approach were not taken. >> >>> In short, the initial commit list looks problematic to me. >> >> Podlings and PMCs are not one size fits all. >> >>> >>> P.S. The repo landing page/readme has some ASF trademark issues that would >>> be good to address. >> >> That is part of Incubation. >> >> Best, >> Dave >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
