> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:25 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter
>
>
> On 12/27/01 7:21 PM, "Rob Oxspring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:51 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Rob,
> >>
> >> It is indeed a great idea. However, the two editors given credit at the
> >> bottom of the url you posted are Sun employee's who get paid
> to do the job
> >> so they don't really count as 'volunteers'.
> >
> > The example given was just through a google search on "newsletter
> > site:netbeans.org" and not much thought was given to the
> contents (although
> > the fact that it mentions Ant is nice). The point of this is
> that I really
> > hadn't noticed that te editors were sun employees and I
> certainly got the
> > impression that more recent editors have been volunteers in a
> truer sense -
> > perhaps I have been nieve :( . In the mean time I'll look into the RSS
> > agregator approach and "Reptile" (will investigate in the morning).
> >
> > Otherwise; point taken - doing is a damn site better than
> talking - I guess
> > I may take this over to ant-dev (ie where I may be able to do a
> half decent
> > job) and try it on a smaller scale to see how well it goes down to begin
> > with and expand later...
>
> Don't give up too easily :)
>
> I'll help if you want. We can co-opt others by simply asking
> them to write
> a short note about what's going on in the various projects.
> Everyone likes
> to write about themselves, and we can just glom the stuff together,
> wordsmith here and there, and then we have a nice little newsletter that
> tells what's going on where....
This sounds like a sensible starting point to me - giving a flavour of what
is going on is all I'm really after.
>
> So if you are game for an approach like this, I'll help, and we can get
> started immediately...
Sounds good to me, I'm fairly sure I could come up with something
appropriate for ant-dev and commons-dev but anything on any other list would
be appreciated, and I guess an open letter to the other mailing lists might
get a few projects to "write about themselves". How often should such a
newsletter go out though? every week seems a bit of a commitment (yeah I
know I'm lazy) maybe monthly would be more approptiate... either way it
seems that not too much has been going on over xmas so I guess that mid to
end of January might be a good target for issue 1.
Anyway, I think i'll get some sleep before getting too carried away...
Rob
>
> Geir
>
> >
> >>
> >> The Jakarta project has plenty of great minds and thus great
> >> ideas. What we
> >> are lacking is great volunteers. Everyone is too busy bitching
> >> about what an
> >> asshole I am.
> >>
> >> So, my suggestion is that if you would like to see this done, you start
> >> working on it yourself...not worrying about how bad an editor you
> >> are...and
> >> just post *something*. That will encourage others to help you edit and
> >> create it (it is hard to complain about something without helping out).
> >> Discussing how things should be done won't get you anywhere.
> >>
> >> This is the same tactic that I used when I created Anakia [1]
> which is now
> >> used to create most of the Jakarta websites as well as
www.apache.org and
>> httpd.apache.org. It isn't the most perfect tool [2], but it does the job
>> well, people adopted it quickly and the bitching about Styleweb (the
>> previous tool) stopped.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> -jon
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"He who throws mud only loses ground." - Fat Albert
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