On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 08:27, Paulo Gaspar wrote: > This is getting interesting and we have e lot of pieces for this kind > of puzzle around Apache. > > Why must standards be ruled just by the BigCo's??? > > De facto standards happen when a product is really good. > > This reminds me how the then tiny dog Borland turned Turbo Pascal > into the de facto standard Pascal language in a couple of years. All > Pascal language related products wanted to be compatible with it and > not with whatever was the standard Pascal. All the big dogs had to > run away. >
+1 > > > Have fun, > Paulo Gaspar > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:54 PM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: RE: J2EE considered harmful > > > > > > > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Are you just talking about creating a new language, or what? What is > > your > > > idea? I cannot tell. > > > > That's a good question, and ultimately one which would be determined by > > the constraints of the technology. Prototyping would probably involve > > using an existing language and platform, and maybe we would ultimately > > discover that it is possible to build a system like this on top of a JVM > > (or CLR). My suspicion is that it is not, and may be undesirable for > > legal reasons anyways. > > > > The later part of my diatribe was a hastily phrased way of approaching > > this subject: > > > > Unless you want to go back to the dark ages of C++, the future is > > shaping up to look like a choice between writing for the Sun platform or > > the Microsoft platform. This does not make me comfortable, especially > > considering that Sun's approach to Java so far has been *wholly* > > anathema to the principals of Open Source. At least Microsoft has > > submitted C# and the CLI to ECMA. Quoth Jon: *WAKE UP PEOPLE* > > > > I am tantalized by the idea of a third choice: the Apache platform. I > > propose a discussion of just what that might be. > > > > Jeff Schnitzer > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- www.superlinksoftware.com www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>