On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 08:27, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> This is getting interesting and we have e lot of pieces for this kind
> of puzzle around Apache.
> 
> Why must standards be ruled just by the BigCo's???
> 
> De facto standards happen when a product is really good.
> 
> This reminds me how the then tiny dog Borland turned Turbo Pascal 
> into the de facto standard Pascal language in a couple of years. All 
> Pascal language related products wanted to be compatible with it and 
> not with whatever was the standard Pascal. All the big dogs had to 
> run away.
> 

+1

> 
> 
> Have fun,
> Paulo Gaspar
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:54 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: J2EE considered harmful
> > 
> > 
> > > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > 
> > > Are you just talking about creating a new language, or what?  What is
> > your
> > > idea?  I cannot tell.
> > 
> > That's a good question, and ultimately one which would be determined by
> > the constraints of the technology.  Prototyping would probably involve
> > using an existing language and platform, and maybe we would ultimately
> > discover that it is possible to build a system like this on top of a JVM
> > (or CLR).  My suspicion is that it is not, and may be undesirable for
> > legal reasons anyways.
> > 
> > The later part of my diatribe was a hastily phrased way of approaching
> > this subject:
> > 
> > Unless you want to go back to the dark ages of C++, the future is
> > shaping up to look like a choice between writing for the Sun platform or
> > the Microsoft platform.  This does not make me comfortable, especially
> > considering that Sun's approach to Java so far has been *wholly*
> > anathema to the principals of Open Source.  At least Microsoft has
> > submitted C# and the CLI to ECMA.  Quoth Jon: *WAKE UP PEOPLE*
> > 
> > I am tantalized by the idea of a third choice:  the Apache platform.  I
> > propose a discussion of just what that might be.
> > 
> > Jeff Schnitzer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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